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  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #1

    When immigrants turn the tide

    So Israel is banning half of the squad. This might be a first. With a little nudge from Trump. But when did this ever happen before? When half(hyperbole) of Minnesota is black you get a muzlim congress woman(damn Lutheran liberal white do-gooder comebya sixties hippie underground railroad democrats). I'm saying democrats cause it's current. But it seems real. There is a fragmentation. The guy in Animal House might say, fragmentation is good. That seems simplistic(and animal house). But another notch down or up, whatever your politics.
    Last edited by dryheat; 08-16-2019, 08:09.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    It's already Israeli law. Trump is just stoking more propaganda.
    Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 08-16-2019, 08:03.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • dryheat
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 10587

      #3
      What law is that? Law is complicated. If there is a law, I'm interested in it's origin and application to todays situation. Me; I'm going with the headlines.
      Last edited by dryheat; 08-16-2019, 08:36.
      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #4
        Originally posted by dryheat
        What law is that? Law is complicated. If there is a law, I'm interested in it's origin and application to todays situation. Me; I'm going with the headlines.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • dryheat
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 10587

          #5
          Thanks.

          Israel "has the right to determine who enters its borders" and that the ban was an effort against "those who seek to delegitimize Israel while hiding behind the language of human rights

          -hiding behind the language of human rights- Aside from the original post. While no one is trying to delegitimize America(from the south they don't care) there's a sentence that should be paid attention to in the U.S.
          Ignore this sentence in the context of the post on Israels banning of 50% of the American squad.
          Last edited by dryheat; 08-16-2019, 09:28. Reason: end of edits
          If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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          • rayg
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7444

            #6
            I think the US should adopt a law like that, Ray

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Israel is following in the footsteps of South Africa. Not clear to me that this is a winning long term strategy for organizing Jewish society. People who point this out are not necessarily enemies of Israel. Not necessarily friends, either.

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10583

                #8
                A person has the right to determine who enters their home. A country has the same right to determine who enters and it's an obligation.

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                • Johnny P
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6259

                  #9
                  After Tlaib was granted entry to visit her grandmother for the last time, she turned it down for political reasons. Shows her sincerity.

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Johnny P
                    After Tlaib was granted entry to visit her grandmother for the last time, she turned it down for political reasons. Shows her sincerity.
                    She agonized over the matter and decided that the humiliating terms could not be accepted. Tom Friedman (from same Minneapolis-St. Louis Park area that I lived in when first married, and which Omar now represents) had a good column on this in the NY Times. Trump is trying to turn support of Israel into a US political wedge issue, with Netanyahu's help. Both are doing damage to US-Israeli relations. Read the column if you can find it. Friedman is no fan of Omar either.
                    Last edited by togor; 08-17-2019, 03:11.

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                    • dogtag
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 14985

                      #11
                      Funny how every Tom Dick and Harry knows better than the President.

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                      • Roadkingtrax
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 7835

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dogtag
                        Funny how every Tom Dick and Harry knows better than the President.
                        Someone has to lead, if not the American people, who?
                        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                        • Vern Humphrey
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 15875

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dogtag
                          Funny how every Tom Dick and Harry knows better than the President.
                          I don't know about Tom and Harry, but there are some Dicks who think that,

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                          • ddrobny
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 23

                            #14
                            Yet another example that ALL politicians are cut from a different bolt of cloth.

                            I'm a firm believer that there are ALWAYS at least two sides to every story. Talib and Omar certainly had to know a visit to Israel would create some hubbub; yet they chose to visit anyway (wonder what that trip cost the taxpayers). For whatever reason, they soon realized that other countries don't follow U.S. law/regulation/policy when it comes to entry into their country...Hmmmm...sad. I guess for all of our faults and shortcomings, the U.S. is still the greatest place to be.

                            As if that wasn't enough, Talib couldn't further humiliate herself by adhering to Israel's 'conditions' in order to visit her Grandmother in the West Bank. 'Oppressive conditions'??? Get out of the good old U.S. much? Apparently not...Poor little lawmaker?!?! If you want oppressive - I'd could take you to some out of the way places in Afghanistan that would really make you wet your pants. Last time I checked YOU chose to run for office - suck it up buttercup.

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                            • JohnPeeff
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 252

                              #15
                              Tom Friedman? The Tom Friedman who said the US economy would collapse if Trump was elected? The Tom Friedman who once Trump was actually elected said the stock market would collapse in 30 Days? Who takes this guy seriously?

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