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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    So what if some Navy guys and gals are porkers ...

    Does it really matter if some Navy personnel are overweight,
    a nice way of saying fat ? All they do in these modern computerized
    warships is sit in front of a computer screen and fiddle with the mouse.
    You don't need to be fit and trim to do that. After all, let's not forget;
    "The Navy gets the gravy and the Army gets the beans"

    A new Pentagon study has found that the Navy is the fattest U.S. armed service, with almost one in four sailors obese. In addition to heart disease,
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    I'll grant you that maintaining fitness while pulling long shifts at sea is a tall order, but IMO discipline in the ranks also means discipline over one's own body.

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    • Sandpebble
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 2196

      #3
      Ever been on a burning ship DT ? .... ever had to hang on to a high pressure fire hose for lengths of time or help haul injured ship mates up six stories of near vertical "stairs" ?

      If you've ever worked a machinery space on a vessel while standing the 4 - 8 watch .... meaning 104 hours of duty a week while at sea ..... you might not sound so critical

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      • blackhawknj
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 3754

        #4
        I recall a small item in an Army magazine in 1980 which "quoted" a Soviet general as saying:
        "You Americans have it all backwards. Your generals are slender and your sergeants are fat."
        And a big cause of disciplinary problems in my Army days 1967-1971 was the very real contempt we junior EM had for all the fat slobby lifers.
        No. 1 cause of overweight ?-too much beer guzzling. And to day's uniforms. A lot harder to hide a gut in fatigues and the old Navy dungarees.

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #5
          Originally posted by dogtag
          Does it really matter if some Navy personnel are overweight,
          a nice way of saying fat ? All they do in these modern computerized
          warships is sit in front of a computer screen and fiddle with the mouse.
          You don't need to be fit and trim to do that. After all, let's not forget;
          "The Navy gets the gravy and the Army gets the beans"

          https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...lors-are-obese
          How'd you like to be on a sinking submarine, with Rosie O'Donnell above you on the ladder trying to squeeze through the hatch?

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          • dogtag
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 14985

            #6
            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
            How'd you like to be on a sinking submarine, with Rosie O'Donnell above you on the ladder trying to squeeze through the hatch?
            Oh, thanks a lot Vern for tonight's nightmare.

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            • dryheat
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 10587

              #7
              Not a lot of room on a warship(unless they've "let them out" some). "scuse me, sorry, can I get by?
              Maybe they have let them out some. I have only visited old time warships(although I was in the Navy).
              If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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              • Major Tom
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 6181

                #8
                I went to 'Nam on a troop ship named 'John Pope'. WOW! Was it crowded! Bunks 4 high and 2 feet of headroom between. Those green fried eggs with beans for breakfast was YUMMY, NOT. Took 3 weeks to get to 'Nam. Had to be on deck during the day and watch guys puke. Guys downwind caught the puke. Was fun shooting sharks aft when they dumped the garbage overboard.

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                • dogtag
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 14985

                  #9
                  Troopship. That brings back a memory.
                  Back in history I was on a Troopship going to Egypt.
                  I got fire picket duty in Officers' quarters where the daughter
                  of one of the officers spotted me. She was about 15/16 and at
                  that age liked boys. However there were none in Officers quarters
                  so here I was a handsome young lad of 18 standing there
                  guarding a bucket of water and another of sand. There was no
                  way I could ignore her when she started chatting, so we chatted.
                  Until the Provost Marshal came by. So, I got extra duty - at the
                  same fire buckets with the same pretty girl. It was a pleasant duty.
                  Unfortunately she was going to Singapore.

                  The Troopship was the HMT Dunera. She was rather infamous.
                  Movie - "The Dunera boys" with Bob Hoskins

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                  • S.A. Boggs
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 8568

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                    How'd you like to be on a sinking submarine, with Rosie O'Donnell above you on the ladder trying to squeeze through the hatch?
                    How would the sub be kept on an even keel?
                    Sam

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                    • m1ashooter
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 3220

                      #11
                      Wow troop ships? Some of you guys are really old. Weight control has always been a tool to try to maintain standards and when they have to reduce the force structure the service branches start looking at ways to get rid of people. Being on the fat boy program and not making progress is one of the classes of people. The weight standards are interesting. Many of our young men are just plain big, not fat but just big. They are bigger then I was when I was on active duty. My son is 6ft 2 inches, weights 205 and is solid as a rock. Look at the recent USCG video of the young men carrying people in the Bahamas. Those youngsters are solid. Yes some are fat but looks are deceiving.
                      To Error Is Human To Forgive Is Not SAC Policy

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                      • Roadkingtrax
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 7835

                        #12
                        6' 2" and 205 is close to the max, without tape for muscle.

                        Mine was 6' 1", Max 206. We could not be little guys and do our job, it just didnt work.
                        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                        • blackhawknj
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3754

                          #13
                          Army chow has long been "too much white bread and potatoes and too little everything else."
                          In his autobiography Norman Schwarzkopf mentions discussing the need to get back to fitness standards in the 1970s, he says veterans of Korea spoke of all those left behind in the retreat from the Yalu because they couldn't keep up.
                          Seeing a fatso-or anybody who won't adhere to the standards- get the boot does wonders for morale.
                          Last edited by blackhawknj; 09-05-2019, 03:19.

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                          • dogtag
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 14985

                            #14
                            I can understand having to be fit in the Army where
                            you're either marching, charging or maybe even retreating.
                            You don't have to do those tiring things in the Navy.
                            The British Army was big on feet. Brass figured you weren't
                            much use if you couldn't move.

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                            • dogtag
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 14985

                              #15
                              Originally posted by m1ashooter
                              Wow troop ships? Some of you guys are really old. Weight control has always been a tool to try to maintain standards and when they have to reduce the force structure the service branches start looking at ways to get rid of people. Being on the fat boy program and not making progress is one of the classes of people. The weight standards are interesting. Many of our young men are just plain big, not fat but just big. They are bigger then I was when I was on active duty. My son is 6ft 2 inches, weights 205 and is solid as a rock. Look at the recent USCG video of the young men carrying people in the Bahamas. Those youngsters are solid. Yes some are fat but looks are deceiving.
                              Presumably, by your remark you're not a member of the old fart club.
                              Not to worry though, for you too will get old (hopefully). Doesn't take long.

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