The Other Emoluents Clause

[J.B. Books]

"What Does It Matter?"
JB

[togor]

"What Does It Matter?"

"Deputy" Boggs asks what does the law matter? Sounds about right.

[J.B. Books]

"Deputy" Boggs asks what does the law matter? Sounds about right.

I see you have come up for air!
JB

[J.B. Books]

Cupcake I would rather have an American get any money for lodging then another foreigner. Gee engage your brain then trying to insult with a .50 remark.
JB

[togor]

Cupcake I would rather have an American get any money for lodging then another foreigner. Gee engage your brain then trying to insult with a .50 remark.
JB

Again, not a plain reading if the Constitution, Adolph.

Why does this matter? Someday will be Day 1 A.T. (After Trump), and all of the behaviours excused in the current POTUS will be fair game for whoever follows in the office. What goes around, comes around, and Trump has a ton going around.

[lyman]

"Deputy" Boggs asks what does the law matter? Sounds about right.

I would bet he was paraphrasing Hillz

What Difference Does It Make???

[m1ashooter]

I guess we better ask the Supreme Court for a ruling on this. I read this article as posted and in my highly educated opinion it says the President gets paid by the taxpayers and that all I read.

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So how have the Presidents received a pay raise while in office if this article says they can't.

[J.B. Books]

I would bet he was paraphrasing Hillz

What Difference Does It Make???

Give that man a cigar!
Does cupcake shoot off his mouth where he works?
JB

[togor]

I guess we better ask the Supreme Court for a ruling on this. I read this article as posted and in my highly educated opinion it says the President gets paid by the taxpayers and that all I read.

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So how have the Presidents received a pay raise while in office if this article says they can't.

To my knowledge pay changes kick in at the start of terms, and are infrequently set by Congress. Perhaps other examples exist.

A plain reading of the text refers to a salary schedule ("...at stated times..."). The idea that the President can draw ad hoc compensation from the departments he controls is not a straightforward reading.

Yeah I know people want to defend Trump but allegiance to the Constitution should come first. The right thing for Trump to do would be to issue the executive order I described. Failing that there is obvious grounds for impeachment. Is it a high enough crime to warrant removal from office? At this point I say let the voters decide. But putting the tribal instinct aside for a moment, he's clearly out of bounds with this one. The right thing in my opinion is for people to admit it, and defend the Constitution, especially in this case when there is a little bit of discomfort in it.

[lyman]

just to be clear, I am not defending anyone,

if he breaks the law, punish, just like you and I

however it is a bit exhausting to hear every single nuance of his life being analysed to look for an error, misstep, etc ,

if the Dims, and some repugs, spent that time actually fixing what they are in charge of,, the country would be much better


esp true on this issue,, since the contracts were done under the previous administration, and I have read that not only is the Marriot more expensive, but that the Gov't rate applies to both,,

[togor]

Lyman I think the whole point of the Constitution is to keep people from doing stuff that they want to but shouldn't. Contracts get cancelled all the time. Seriously, how hard is it for the Federal Government to find a different banquet hall in DC or vendor able to meet the need for luxury golf weekends?

If terminating those contracts puts that big a dent in Trump Inc., then it's all the more impeachable that he keeps it going.

[J.B. Books]

just to be clear, I am not defending anyone,

if he breaks the law, punish, just like you and I

however it is a bit exhausting to hear every single nuance of his life being analysed to look for an error, misstep, etc ,

if the Dims, and some repugs, spent that time actually fixing what they are in charge of,, the country would be much better


esp true on this issue,, since the contracts were done under the previous administration, and I have read that not only is the Marriot more expensive, but that the Gov't rate applies to both,,

+1
JB

[lyman]

as long as no laws are broken, and no extra price is paid, (as in the same , or in this case less then the competition) what difference does it make who owns it,


using your reasoning, each and every congress critter, staffer and what not will need to divest themselves of any stock held in the US, and like foreign


this is like looking at one pine tag,, in a forest of pine trees, and screaming foul,,

[togor]

No Lyman, you're wrong by a plain reading of the text. If your position is that the Constitution should be argued with hand-waving, then I guess you can feel that way. But don't come back with a "plain text" rebuttal when some liberal invents a right that you disagree with. At that point it's your waving against hers.

[jdmcgrath]

Unfortunately for Trump the text IS crystal clear. Probably they don't impeach but investigate all through the campaign season to mess him up That's what the Republicans would do.