Gun deaths in gun free Chicago go unnoticed ...

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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Gun deaths in gun free Chicago go unnoticed ...

    by the left.
    I'm guessing the democrats figure bullets coming out of an AR or an AK
    muzzle are the bad bullets and are very dangerous, whereas bullets
    coming out of less naughty looking guns aren't so bad, at least not if
    they're shot out of guns in a democrat run city.
    If you find the logic of this a little mind numbing - join the club.
    The stooges will understand it though.

    https://hannity.com/media-room/total...r-the-weekend/
  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #2
    Not to worry -- they're busy checking the Official Spin before replying.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      A lot of guns flow from IN and WI into Chicago. What's the point?

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11268

        #4
        Originally posted by togor
        A lot of guns flow from IN and WI into Chicago. What's the point?
        that will not be reported unless some one is caught doing a big theft, straw purchase or a bloomberg type story,

        meanwhile in chicago, gun control is only triggered by mass shootings, involving white guys going 'postal'

        the rest does not fit the narrative, or points to failed politics, and is hidden or ignored

        black (or hispanic) folks killing black (or hispanic) folks don't fit the narrative

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Lyman if you're criticizing a mindset that sees mass shootings as a threat but ignores firearm use in street crime and suicides, then the anti gunners agree with you.

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11268

            #6
            not sure how,

            is this where you post that every one needs bigger better background checks, and esp more restrictions (like NY, DC or IL) in Wis and Indiana to save those lives in Chicago?

            and yet no amount of restrictions will reduce the crime until we red flag every gunowner in that area?

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              You're hanging that straw man on me? On what basis?

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              • Allen
                Moderator
                • Sep 2009
                • 10583

                #8
                Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                Not to worry -- they're busy checking the Official Spin before replying.
                And THERE they are just like clockwork. Don't know what he's saying but I'll bet it's not very brilliant.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11268

                  #9
                  red flag thoughts

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lyman
                    It's an interesting angle. I would guess that the culture against snitching to the cops plays a role. And there's no getting around some things. We all saw this video, how the folks inside didn't notice anything amiss until the off-duty-cop-as-guard drew. That mindset does not make things better at all.

                    Also: LE data indicates that a sizable amount of guns in Chicago come out of the suburbs. There is no state law in IL that requires reporting of a lost or stolen weapon. Consequently, people can buy guns and "lose" them in illegal FTF sales multiple times a year without there ever being a police report. Is it really such an unreasonable thing to suggest that owners who lose their guns contact authorities? People like to compare cars and guns, how we don't outlaw cars because of drunks, etc. True. But we do put license plates on cars, and we do register them, and we do make DMV records available to combat crime.


                    Last edited by togor; 09-17-2019, 06:55.

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11268

                      #11
                      registration has not worked, esp after they have been for sale for so long, in those countries where there have been recent registration laws and even turn in's, how many have??

                      a very low percent

                      if you think NFA registration works,, you need to look harder, it doesn't really
                      the NFA crowd is a bit tight, as in they know the processes and abide by them, but anyone can get there hands on a non registered NFA in a short matter of time,


                      you would think you would look at that data and realize it does not work,


                      instead you are back to laying it on the legit owners and hoping that provides some change,,

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Well in case you haven't noticed, the trends with the younger generation is not in our favor. If your plan is to do nothing, and to then say nothing you tried worked, then someone might notice a problem with that. We teach kindergartners that it matters whether someone tries or not at a thing.
                        Last edited by togor; 09-17-2019, 10:40.

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                        • lyman
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 11268

                          #13
                          not my plan we are discussing,

                          it's your same ole same ole mantra of restrict the law abiding to hopefully change the ones that break the law,

                          how about we just enforce what we have and go after those that do wrong,,


                          oh wait,, that does not fit the narrative,


                          and oh wait, we have discussed this numerous times before as well

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #14
                            Would love to hear your plan.

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                            • blackhawknj
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 3754

                              #15
                              The Liberals/Leftists maintain a deafening silence whenever a citizen uses a handgun for justified self defense-cf. the recent case in Philadelphia where a thug tried to hold up a phone store-at 4PM !

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