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  • J.B. Books
    Banned
    • Sep 2019
    • 92

    #1

    Military grade weapon?

    Just what is it? I have a Ruger 10/22 that is almost exactly like what the Israeli Army uses, is this carbine military grade?
    JB
  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11268

    #2
    catch phrase,

    like Saturday Night Special, Cop Killer Bullets, etc,


    tho you would think it would mean built by the lowest bidder or the contractor with the best contacts,,

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10582

      #3
      Originally posted by J.B. Books
      Just what is it? I have a Ruger 10/22 that is almost exactly like what the Israeli Army uses, is this carbine military grade?
      JB
      Looks like they are calling it the SR-22. I can't tell if the barrel is a bull barrel or if the supplied barrel is ported along the length and silenced. If I were a user my complaint would be that rotary magazine. It would be hard to make accurate shots with a throbbing, sore thumb. Not being critical, I have a 10/22 too.
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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        Originally posted by lyman
        tho you would think it would mean built by the lowest bidder or the contractor with the best contacts,,
        LOL, with improper heat treatment, a faulty gas system, or no issue cleaning kits?

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        • k arga
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 565

          #5
          A few shots in the legs gets an out of control crowd on the move, that's what I was told a while ago.

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          • blackhawknj
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 3754

            #6
            At the time of the Revolution militiamen were cautioned that their muskets could not be of "bastard bore"-i.e. anything other than the .75 of the Brown Bess. How well that was enforced of course.....

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            • dogtag
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 14985

              #7
              I sold my 10/22 years ago (late 70s) because I had two magazine failures
              which transformed the rifle into a club.

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11268

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                LOL, with improper heat treatment, a faulty gas system, or no issue cleaning kits?
                damn democrats ,,,,

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lyman
                  damn democrats ,,,,
                  Forgot uncontrollable muzzle climb in FA.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11268

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    Forgot uncontrollable muzzle climb in FA.
                    not if you practice

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      not if you practice
                      In my experience, the ability to shoot well in full auto mode is like being able to micturate through your ear -- an interesting trick, but of no combat value.

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                      • blackhawknj
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3754

                        #12
                        The Soviets issued large numbers of selective fire PPSh M1941s and fully automatic PPS M1943s. Easy to manufacture, easy to rain conscript troops on, and their tactical doctrine emphasized heavy use of artillery.

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                        • Allen
                          Moderator
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 10582

                          #13
                          Are we still speaking of a 10/22 in a full auto mode? A 22LR is not going to have a recoil problem plus a 30rd mag will empty in less than one second. Those that have experienced F/A 10/22's say you can not hear the distinction between shots, they fire very fast.

                          F/A mode control depends mostly upon the cartridge and the weapon. An M2 carbine is very controllable. An M16 with the 3rd burst is very controllable. A MAC10, Thompson or M14 no. After about the 3rd shot you're shooting the sky.
                          Last edited by Allen; 09-17-2019, 03:14.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11268

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                            In my experience, the ability to shoot well in full auto mode is like being able to micturate through your ear -- an interesting trick, but of no combat value.
                            I am not in combat,

                            have no issue controlling a lot of NFA stuff,

                            BAR is a bit tough from the hip, but excellent on the ground,

                            the more modern stuff, not hard at all, with practice,

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                            Originally posted by blackhawknj
                            The Soviets issued large numbers of selective fire PPSh M1941s and fully automatic PPS M1943s. Easy to manufacture, easy to rain conscript troops on, and their tactical doctrine emphasized heavy use of artillery.
                            friend years ago (RIP) had a ppsh, mid war soviet gun,

                            I am not sure if it was papered,,, did not ask, (he was an SOT, so maybe, or not,,,)

                            very easy to shoot gun,
                            looked like crap, it had been rode hard and put up wet, but it shot like a dream
                            Last edited by lyman; 09-17-2019, 04:18.

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