Kids are protesting Global Warming

[togor]

you missed his point,

I took it to the bottom line is all. Coming up with reasons for doing nothing, or worse than nothing, actually increasing CO2 emissions by reducing efficiency, must be exhausting. Introducing Nazi Brownshirts is just Godwin's Law in action. As soon as 5 people get excited together on something unpopular here, then it's Nazis, Nazis, Nazis. Boggs, here's your moment!

[Mark in Ottawa]

Look at it from a positive viewpoint. At least they don't have their faces shoved in an i-phone and are involved in something that really is a concern. They may be mouthing ideas from the climate industry (and its related unchallangeable religion) and have no idea of the economic and social costs, but given time, they'll learn about reality. Better this than pushing drugs on the street corner.

[Vern Humphrey]

Look at it from a positive viewpoint. At least they don't have their faces shoved in an i-phone and are involved in something that really is a concern. They may be mouthing ideas from the climate industry (and its related unchallangeable religion) and have no idea of the economic and social costs, but given time, they'll learn about reality. Better this than pushing drugs on the street corner.

Actually, what they're pushing IS a drug -- and a bad one. Look at the trillions that have already been spent on cockamamie ideas.

[dryheat]

Vern-y. Lets get somethings straight. I hate mindless nazi talk. I am not a climate denier. I don't like the idea of kids being used or coersed or encouraged to participate in volatile debates. Plenty of people are doing something.

[Vern Humphrey]

Vern-y. Lets get somethings straight. I hate mindless nazi talk. I am not a climate denier. I don't like the idea of kids being used or coersed or encouraged to participate in volatile debates. Plenty of people are doing something.

What is it you want to get straight on? Did not the Nazis espouse socialism and use thugs to terrorize their opponents?

I don't know that a "climate denier" is -- is that someone who denies there is such a thing as climate?

[lyman]

how about we walk away from all the Nazi talk?

this is not AHC (all hitler channel) and is getting a bit old,


everyone here seems to be an adult (most of the time)
thinking we could get more folks to not lurk and contribute it the old arguments and name calling went away??

[togor]

On climate change, it's worth pointing out that the petroleum industry acknowledges the science of it. Cause and effect are not in dispute. Breaking it down into smaller pieces might help people (and Allen) wrap their heads around it. First: are we burning enough fossil carbon to drive up CO2 levels? YES. Second: is the +65% increase atmospheric CO2 enough to shift global climatic energy patterns? YES. CO2 plays an outsized role in Earth's climate regulation. Without it in the atmosphere this would be an ice world. Our climate actively balances on atmospheric CO2 and methane levels. Is the classicly Conservative position to ignore long term damage in pursuit of short-term gain? No. Vernon is like a callow youth on this subject, chasing the short term pleasures of a carbon powered civilization without care for the long term.

[bostonbound]

togor,

If you feel that CO2 is such a deadly pollutant and danger to the world, why are you still emitting it?

That was sarcasm, by the way.

Seriously, I usually enjoy your posts, though I rarely agree with them. On the other hand, I still get along with my climate hysterical, Trump hate blinded friends, too. Friendship is too precious to let it be destroyed by politics.

I would enjoy your posts even more if you would refrain from the ad hominem attacks (including the use of the word "Allen" as a pejorative). I realize that you are being personally vilified by some people, and to respond in the same manner is normal. But it tends to make to easier to automatically dismiss you and your (usually) cogent arguments.

Have a great day!

[togor]

Allen works hard at maintaining his status as a perjorative. Why would people want to take that away? As for CO2 and the climate, throw darts if one must at the messenger, but get the message.

[Gun Smoke]

As for CO2 and the climate, throw darts if one must at the messenger, but get the message.

What's the message? That you're a gullible idiot thinking you can convince intelligent people that the global warming BS isn't a hoax for money for the liberals? Strange how Al Gore and Obama have waterfront property. Like your gal, the lovely Maxine says "theys ain't skeered".

Many other countries are still wasting their money on this. What is being accomplished? What about all the billions that the U.S. dumped into this bottomless pit? What was accomplished?

[togor]

What's the message? That you're a gullible idiot thinking you can convince intelligent people that the global warming BS isn't a hoax for money for the liberals? Strange how Al Gore and Obama have waterfront property. Like your gal, the lovely Maxine says "theys ain't skeered".

The oil industry sees it but you can't/won't? Hmm OK.

[dryheat]

Yes, it's warming. Not colding. If it was colding the glaciers wouldn't be melting. Togor, you can throw around a few stats if you want to; it's been established. Cold brings it's own problems. Ya like scraping off the windshield to go to work when it's -30? We live in a thin focus point when it comes to our atmosphere. I like the fact that I can change the thermostat from 78 to 77 if I feel the least uncomfortable. Humans can be big babies about the environment. How many of our members have felt the onerous effects of Global Warming? Not many. If the oceans warm a little and the S. pole melts a little more than usual, well a lot of Indians and Hindus get washed away. I think they are used to that. We can spend ten billion on that if it makes you feel good.

[togor]

Dryheat if it were only things getting a little warmer then stabilizing, but it isn't. Right now there is no upper bound. There is nothing to stop things from becoming unbearable. If not for the humans, then for the plants and animals with which we share this world. Destroying the environment in pursuit of comfort or profit is in the end neither Christian or Conservative, but it is apparently very Trumpian.