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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    Impeach Trump for following the law?

    According to the Mutual Legal Assistance In Criminal Matters Treaty (signed by Bill Clinton), the U.S. is required to work with the Ukraine Government to pursue corruption. It is common practice that such agreements are talked about by the respective heads of State who would then introduce the people from each State that would work together. During the Obama Administration, Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion dollars in aide to Ukraine if it didn't fire the prosecutor that was looking into the operation of their Buriama National Gas company. According to a recorded Biden statement "... And the son of a b__h was fired..."

    Shortly thereafter the firing, Hunter Biden and his friend Dean Archer was appointed to the Burisma Board of Directors at $50K/MO. Neither of them is on record as having ever attended a single board meeting.

    This entire charade is a made up, bald faced lie, and is financed by the same people that paid $10 million for that complete lie that we now called "the Dossier."

    Congressional democrats have begun inquiries into impeachment of President Trump allegedly because Trump “tried to pressure” the Ukrainians into investigating possible corruption by former VP Joe Biden and his son. I have not heard reference of this treaty from the democrats or the “mainstream” press. However, Trump was entirely within his legal purview according to...


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tive-2014.html
    Last edited by RED; 10-01-2019, 07:01.
  • lyman
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11269

    #2
    Originally posted by RED
    According to the Mutual Legal Assistance In Criminal Matters Treaty (signed by Bill Clinton), the U.S. is required to work with the Ukraine Government to pursue corruption. It is common practice that such agreements are talked about by the respective heads of State who would then introduce the people from each State that would work together. During the Obama Administration, Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion dollars in aide to Ukraine if it didn't fire the prosecutor that was looking into the operation of their Buriama National Gas company. According to a recorded Biden statement "... And the son of a b__h was fired..."

    Shortly thereafter the firing, Hunter Biden and his friend Dean Archer was appointed to the Burisma Board of Directors at $50K/MO. Neither of them is on record as having ever attended a single board meeting.

    This entire charade is a made up, bald faced lie, and is financed by the same people that paid $10 million for that complete lie that we now called "the Dossier."

    Congressional democrats have begun inquiries into impeachment of President Trump allegedly because Trump “tried to pressure” the Ukrainians into investigating possible corruption by former VP Joe Biden and his son. I have not heard reference of this treaty from the democrats or the “mainstream” press. However, Trump was entirely within his legal purview according to...


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tive-2014.html
    well Mueller failed to remove Trump from office

    so this is the next (attempted) method, which as more truth comes out, will likely fail,


    DeepState/Dems are trying everything they can to get him out of office before RBG croaks,

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10583

      #3
      Originally posted by lyman
      DeepState/Dems are trying everything they can to get him out of office before RBG croaks,
      They'd better hurry. I honestly think if she died in office they would try to cover it up till the next election in hopes of getting a democrat back in.
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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        There's a great Lindsay Graham quote from 1999 circulating on the web. In the event, the line of argument that Red expounds on at length is nowhere to be found in the rough transcript. Again, a deflection that steers clear of the central facts of the matter. I expect it will be ever thus. And I do point out that if a teenage boy is caught red-handed (no pun intended), we encourage something other than obtuse deflection by way of an explanation.

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11269

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          • kj47
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 699

            #6
            Now that is a good one, Lyman.

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11269

              #7

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              • RED
                Very Senior Member - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11689

                #8
                Originally posted by togor
                There's a great Lindsay Graham quote from 1999 circulating on the web. In the event, the line of argument that Red expounds on at length is nowhere to be found in the rough transcript. Again, a deflection that steers clear of the central facts of the matter. I expect it will be ever thus. And I do point out that if a teenage boy is caught red-handed (no pun intended), we encourage something other than obtuse deflection by way of an explanation.
                The central fact about the matter has nothing to do with Lindsey Graham. Read the freezing transcript and there is nothing there that is illegal, except in the minds of jackass stupid traitors. Fook you.

                “Mr. Shokin attempted to continue the investigations but on or around June or July of 2015, the U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey R. Pyatt told him that the investigation has to be handled with white gloves, which according to Mr. Shokin, that implied do nothing,” the notes from the interview stated. The notes also claimed Shokin was told Biden had held up U.S. aid to Ukraine over the investigation.
                Last edited by RED; 10-02-2019, 06:29.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RED
                  The central fact about the matter has nothing to do with Lindsey Graham. Read the freezing transcript and there is nothing there that is illegal, except in the minds of jackass stupid traitors. Fook you.
                  From 1999:

                  Originally posted by Lindsay Graham
                  You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.
                  Was Graham a shallow politician with a finger in the wind then, now, or both?

                  Regarding your quote about Shokin. Can you give a source? It seems to have some basic facts wrong. Here is a different reference which has a very different take on things.

                  U.S. President Donald Trump asserts that Joe Biden pushed for the ouster of Ukraine’s chief prosecutor to quash a probe into a Burisma, a gas company with Biden's son on its board. Officials and anti-corruption activists in Kyiv say Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin had shelved the case long before and was fired for his failure to prosecute that case.


                  Lastly I would point out that Trump denies the Bidens the same presumption of innocence that he so loudly demands.

                  Unrefuted: Trump demanded a favor in return for military aid--an investigation to produce dirt on a political rival.
                  Last edited by togor; 10-03-2019, 02:40.

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Red:

                    Check out the Lloyd-LaFollette Act. Bob LaFollette was a Republican.

                    And the anti-gag rule put in by the GOP-controlled 104th Congress in 1997, requiring that pay from a Congressional appropriation must be withheld from anyone who prohibits or threatens to prohibit a government employee from testifying before Congress.

                    Different times. Different Republicans. In the case of LaFollette, way different.
                    Last edited by togor; 10-03-2019, 09:25.

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                    • Roadkingtrax
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 7835

                      #11
                      In response to Trump's urgent morning request for China to investigate Biden, China agreed to so, only if we were to remove our military influence in the South China Sea.

                      He's probably mulling it over.
                      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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