Rush hour in California with no working traffic lights ...

[dogtag]

It's absolute bedlam out there although for the most part
people are taking their turn at the non-working lights.
I was not involved but I could see it from my vantage point
at my library. When the electricity is off, all hell breaks loose,
and it will be off for a couple of days, (Mine is still on).

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/...s-inhabitants/

[Vern Humphrey]

I see California as a perfect laboratory for Socialism -- let it collapse of it's own weight as a warning to other states.

[dogtag]

I see California as a perfect laboratory for Socialism -- let it collapse of it's own weight as a warning to other states.

The Gov Gavin Newsom has stolen the money for road improvements.
This was voted for by the people as was the previous money for road
upkeep that was also stolen. There are more pot holes around my
neck of the woods than actual road surface,
Talk about thieves, these politicians (all democrat) are worse than
the artful dodger or Bill. (hope you know your Dickens).

[Allen]

I see California as a perfect laboratory for Socialism -- let it collapse of it's own weight as a warning to other states.

Many parts of it have already collapsed.

[Major Tom]

We like to visit relatives in So. CA, but we would never want to reside there!

[Vern Humphrey]

We like to visit relatives in So. CA, but we would never want to reside there!

Hope you wear disposable booties when you go.

[m1ashooter]

How can the leaders think these black outs are a good thing? I heard one restaurant owner tell about his food going bad because the coolers are off and the loss he will incure, then their is the loss of tax dollars collected because stores can't get ring a sale.

[togor]

PG&E is in a tough spot. They have been burned (pun intended) by wildland fires caused by their lines. People like building houses up in the wooded hills, and they like having electricity brought to them. Underground cables are not good for long distances (too low of a capacitance/inductance ratio) and fantastically expensive to put up, so that means stringing lines through dry stands of timber in rugged terrain. Everyone acknowledges that California is a fire-vulnerable ecosystem in the fall, before the rains come. What will be interesting to me is what happens after this. Will people start planning for next fall, to avoid a repeat?

[dogtag]

How can the leaders think these black outs are a good thing? I heard one restaurant owner tell about his food going bad because the coolers are off and the loss he will incure, then their is the loss of tax dollars collected because stores can't get ring a sale.

Supermarkets are closed. Think of the loss they will incur.

[lyman]

Supermarkets are closed. Think of the loss they will incur.

that will be significant,

dry ice only helps for so long,

generators needed to run the refrigeration equipment are big, and thirsty,

when I was in that biz, the power company would give us weeks of lead time for any repairs needed that would shut down a store,

[barretcreek]

The Control of Nature. Essays John McPhee wrote for the New Yorker in the '80s. One is about California's coastal drought/fire/rain cycle. PG&E has been blocked by the enviros from clearing their right of ways of fuel load for some time. Not an easy task but made worse by the nihilists.

[lyman]

The Control of Nature. Essays John McPhee wrote for the New Yorker in the '80s. One is about California's coastal drought/fire/rain cycle. PG&E has been blocked by the enviros from clearing their right of ways of fuel load for some time. Not an easy task but made worse by the nihilists.

maybe they should run a fire suppression system (sprinklers? halon?) to each and every power grid tower?




[/sarcasm]

[togor]

The Control of Nature. Essays John McPhee wrote for the New Yorker in the '80s. One is about California's coastal drought/fire/rain cycle. PG&E has been blocked by the enviros from clearing their right of ways of fuel load for some time. Not an easy task but made worse by the nihilists.

This article says that Trump's claim about enviros blocking PG&E from doing line maintenance is incorrect.

https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article218559945.html

There is just a lot of line and the work is labor intensive and PG&E doesn't want to do any more than the absolute minimum. So a business decision.

[Tuna]

California has been told for decades to clear away to growth that feeds fires by the US Forest service and it has fallen on deaf ears. The people there have gotten the government they pay dearly for.