How business gets done during a war

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  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #1

    How business gets done during a war

    Businessmen are relentless. They never let up. WWII was about how the world evolved during the second great war(one wasn't enough). I didn't know that the Swiss neutrality was a thoroughfare for commerce. Afterall(I guess that's a word I made up),that period of time was a Rockin' time when everyone was drunk on the science that made it efficient to kill people who are in your way, or that you didn't like much anyway. I kind of accuse the Europeans of this. No I accuse the Europeans of this. I don't like the Polish(but I don't like a lot of people.Ahh,but the Polish. It's more humor). I hope all of this somewhat pertains to the current political situation.
    Last edited by dryheat; 10-12-2019, 11:29.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    It was awkward for Ford and GM after WW2 when their European divisions came back into the fold. Some argue that they were never really gone, especially in the case of Ford.

    And this reminds me of this Steve Bannon quote. Hyperbole, but not without a grain of truth:

    Every capitalist would choose slave labor if he could, and in China capitalists got a totalitarian mercantilist manufacturing base based on slave labor.

    Not just China. Ford-Werke used slaves too. As did 19th century American capitalists.
    Last edited by togor; 10-13-2019, 05:10.

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #3
      If you hire someone to work for you, you pay them (minimum wage) so they can pay for food and shelter.
      If on the other hand instead of paying them, you supply both food and shelter, doesn't that amount to the same thing ?
      Legally of course, the first is a 'worker', the second is a 'slave'

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      • barretcreek
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 6065

        #4
        Henry Ford understood the long view. Frank Lorenzo took the short view. Ford built prosperity, Lorenzo started sucking the life out of it.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by dogtag
          If you hire someone to work for you, you pay them (minimum wage) so they can pay for food and shelter.
          If on the other hand instead of paying them, you supply both food and shelter, doesn't that amount to the same thing ?
          Legally of course, the first is a 'worker', the second is a 'slave'
          Captivity, DT. Liberty? A worker choosing to leave to seek a better opportunity? Or being denied that ability? Good Grief have people so lost their moorings that they rationalize slavery now? And you wonder why AOC is coming for you?

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          • lyman
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11269

            #6
            Originally posted by dogtag
            If you hire someone to work for you, you pay them (minimum wage) so they can pay for food and shelter.
            If on the other hand instead of paying them, you supply both food and shelter, doesn't that amount to the same thing ?
            Legally of course, the first is a 'worker', the second is a 'slave'
            legally, the second is not a slave, unless you attempt to claim ownership of that person, correct?

            if you hire an intern, put them up in an apt, with an expense account (for food) but no actual pay,


            fact is that person can get up and leave for whatever reason,

            slave, not so much

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            • PWC
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 1366

              #7
              Originally posted by dogtag
              If you hire someone to work for you, you pay them (minimum wage) so they can pay for food and shelter.
              If on the other hand instead of paying them, you supply both food and shelter, doesn't that amount to the same thing ?
              Legally of course, the first is a 'worker', the second is a 'slave'
              No, they are trading their labor for room and board. They are free to leave and change their circumstances....only if they are not free to leave are they a slave.

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