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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    These Republicans need to be replaced ...

    by Real Republicans.

  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Not loyal enough to Trump?

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    • Allen
      Moderator
      • Sep 2009
      • 10625

      #3
      These are part of the establishment swamp that Trump talks about. Left wing career politicians that stay in the limelight exaggerating or making up stories and what most of us simply call RINO's.

      Lindsey Graham did a 180 degree flip after his mentor McCain died but is now reverting back to his democrat parties wants. He can never be trusted.

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      • Gun Smoke
        Banned
        • Sep 2019
        • 1658

        #4
        Originally posted by togor
        Not loyal enough to Trump?
        Not loyal to Trump, our president
        Not loyal to their party
        Not loyal to their voters
        Not loyal to their country

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11294

          #5
          Originally posted by Gun Smoke
          Not loyal to Trump, our president
          Not loyal to their party
          Not loyal to their voters
          Not loyal to their country

          the country and the voters are the 2 that count, ,

          jmho,


          show the president respect , he is the president after all,

          as far as the party,

          if I go by our local republican party, they expect lots of respect, but don't bother to give any, or do the right thing as far as getting folks elected,

          too busy being stodgy old guard can't see the forest for a tree type, that has cost this state a few elections

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            Originally posted by Gun Smoke
            Not loyal to Trump, our president
            Not loyal to their party
            Not loyal to their voters
            Not loyal to their country
            Loyalty has to be earned, and better if it comes from love as opposed to threats. I question Trump's loyalties when he pulls out of Syria on a whim, to the betterment of the dictators, and ISIS. I question his loyalty to what he calls a "phoney" Constitution. That's right--people hate the Constitution now.

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            • Gun Smoke
              Banned
              • Sep 2019
              • 1658

              #7
              Originally posted by togor
              Loyalty has to be earned, and better if it comes from love as opposed to threats. I question Trump's loyalties when he pulls out of Syria on a whim, to the betterment of the dictators, and ISIS. I question his loyalty to what he calls a "phoney" Constitution. That's right--people hate the Constitution now.
              Loyalty in this case comes with the job. The loyalty is expected regardless.

              To make a splash here you "question" everything Trump does.

              The only people who hate the constitution now and always are the liberals. It works against their agenda's.

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              • barretcreek
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 6065

                #8
                The RINOs in the Senate will join the 'Rats to impeach. And the state GOP organizations which have decided to not hold primaries will be in deep soft squishy stuff.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11294

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                  Loyalty in this case comes with the job. The loyalty is expected regardless.

                  To make a splash here you "question" everything Trump does.

                  The only people who hate the constitution now and always are the liberals. It works against their agenda's.
                  always has,

                  they would rather we become a protectorate of the UN than remain an independent country,

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                    Loyalty in this case comes with the job. The loyalty is expected regardless.
                    As a boss once explained to me, there are two kinds of power. (The guy was a Texan BTW, not a squishy liberal.) There is power that comes with the position as invested in it by the organization. That kind of power can ram something down someone's throat, true. And if by loyalty you mean a respect for that power and what it can do, then OK I get what you are saying. The other kind of power (loyalty) comes from genuine respect and affection and that kind has to be earned. In any organization from a local lodge to a sports team to even the White House there are natural leaders who people look to regardless of their position in the hierarchy. The great leaders it is said try to work more from the second kind of power than the first. Trump to me leans very very heavily on the first kind.

                    A buddy of mine who is an avowed liberal says that Trump supporters in particular and Republicans in general are too invested in hierarchies as the way to organize things, that hierarchies and individual freedom are at odds for the simple reason that people are forced to choose between their own ideas and what the boss says. To stay close to the OP, that seems to be the problem with the people on the list, right? That some Republicans think for themselves too and not exclusively as Trump or the base want them to? Isn't this an insistence on Group-Think? And isn't Group-Think the sort of thing that conservatives used to dislike?
                    Last edited by togor; 10-22-2019, 08:35. Reason: small spelling correction

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