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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #1

    Remember Cursive?

    This guys does, and he wants all kids to learn it. People who ding public schools need to reflect for a moment on all of the dumb ideas that legislators come up with.



    What's next? Mandating that high school auto shop teach distributor point gapping, setting timing and checking vacuum advance?
  • Johnny P
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 6259

    #2

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      So cursive is a GOP thing now? Good to know. All lefties will surely vote Democrat if that's the case.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11268

        #4
        I thought this was a thing last year?

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        Originally posted by togor
        So cursive is a GOP thing now? Good to know. All lefties will surely vote Democrat if that's the case.
        not sure how a (funny) meme about AOC makes cursive GOP


        unless GOP means Get Over Printing?

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #5
          Originally posted by togor
          So cursive is a GOP thing now? Good to know. All lefties will surely vote Democrat if that's the case.
          Lefties just smear the ink or graphite when writing cursive.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            If this is so last year, then that's news to the GOP rep from Wisconsin.

            Before the AOC meme I thought it was just run-of-the-mill legislative idiocy but I now learn it's political idiocy too.

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            Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
            Lefties just smear the ink or graphite when writing cursive.
            To be clear we're speaking handed-ness, not political orientation.

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11268

              #7
              maybe Wisc is in another dimension,,,?

              I remember reading a few stories on it a good while ago,,

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              • blackhawknj
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 3754

                #8
                "Penmanship" in my day. Yes, it would help the kiddies to learn how to read. On the other hand leftists don't like that because the kids might start to get ideas.

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                • Roadkingtrax
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 7835

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lyman
                  maybe Wisc is in another dimension,,,?

                  I remember reading a few stories on it a good while ago,,
                  Midwest has their own flyover states.

                  During the last recession, my home state said..."What recession?"
                  "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                  • bruce
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3759

                    #10
                    It is a bit like learning how to clear a jam on a manual typewriter. I like the old Remingtons myself. But, the Mac is better. Standard handwriting in a pre-industrial world had utility for business, etc. So it was taught. Now business doesn't use handwriting ... or typewriters. So handwriting is not taught ... and clearing a jammed typewriter is left up to the end user to figure out. Understandable. Have to figure that various dictation programs will lead to less need for keyboarding skills. Again, understandable. Sincerely. bruce.
                    " Unlike most conservatives, libs have no problem exploiting dead children and dancing on their graves."

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bruce
                      It is a bit like learning how to clear a jam on a manual typewriter. I like the old Remingtons myself. But, the Mac is better. Standard handwriting in a pre-industrial world had utility for business, etc. So it was taught. Now business doesn't use handwriting ... or typewriters. So handwriting is not taught ... and clearing a jammed typewriter is left up to the end user to figure out. Understandable. Have to figure that various dictation programs will lead to less need for keyboarding skills. Again, understandable. Sincerely. bruce.
                      There you go--have the computer transcribe the spoken words to a cursive font. Problem solved!

                      I get the discomfort with the idea that people cannot read founding documents in the original if they are in cursive, but there are typeset word-for-word transcriptions available. And to some extent the real problem is already upon us, that the meaning of words shifts with time and people cannot agree on what the document means. A topical example would be from Article 1, Section 2:

                      The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.
                      Can it be any plainer than that? The rules of impeachment are what the House says they are. And yet all of this hand-wringing about the current proceedings being unconstitutional. Could be that the people who want to be able to read the Constitution in original cursive still need others to interpret it for them. It's a problem likely to get worse.

                      Once upon a time, long before it became a noun, the word "plastic" was an adjective.

                      In his masterpiece, The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Eduard Gibbon used the word "insensibly" a lot. It's not a word in common use today, as today we would say "automatically", as in something done without anyone having to give it any thought. A very different word, from a very different origin, to convey the same essential idea.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11268

                        #12
                        only you could turn a thread about handwriting into comments about impeachment

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lyman
                          only you could turn a thread about handwriting into comments about impeachment

                          It's a gift!

                          But again this whole read-cursive-so-you-can-decipher-the-founding-docs idea has been going for 5-6 years or more but completely escaped my attention until yesterday. I should watch Fox more? I was content for it to be just another conservative spasm against Common Core.

                          And since it's my thread I approve a drift into the idea that reading the Constitution in cursive appears to provide no benefit whatsoever towards actual understanding of both the spirit and literal meaning of the document.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11268

                            #14
                            you sure are getting bossy,

                            all about you,

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lyman
                              you sure are getting bossy,

                              all about you,
                              Having a bad week?

                              Thread drift: just following DT's example.

                              If Vern doesn't reply in 6 hours that I am a narcissist I will be truly surprised.

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