Impeachment -- Secret Senate Vote?

[lyman]

The impeachable offense under consideration is that Trump focused on the theme of "corruption" not in any tangible broad sense, as a priority for the State Department, but rather for a very specific Biden-oriented purpose, through an irregular channel of non-employees (Giuliani, Volker), and Political Ambassadors (Sondland) who were working outside their portfolio.

I've given you a starting point for your "process", which is an investigation. You mentioned that investigations should start with "proven" offenses, which is how things go in totalitarian states. I do not believe for a moment that you want to know what really happened with Trump, Giuliani, etc. and the Ukraine aid. Probably you'll tell me that you know enough and it's fine. But aside from Mulvaney's press conference, where he admitted it was political, you really haven't heard the principals say much. None of us have.

So again, having demonstrated that there is no impartial process that could satisfy, it's time to admit that process is not the issue here. The issue here for you is that there is a remote chance that something bad could happen to Trump.

bet that was hard for you to type,,,

[togor]

bet that was hard for you to type,,,

The difference between me and Red is his emotions rule everything he does. My dismay over Trump's character is no excuse for not being objective about the situation. Certainly moreso than those who bet the farm in him without a clear idea of where he's headed...on anything.

[Gun Smoke]

No. The difference between you and Red is you are a liberal on a conservative site trying to destroy what is left of it by it by contradicting every single thing everyone has to say. You feel you have to always get the last word in regardless of how irrelevant it is to the subject.

Red (these days) only rants and raises a ruckus against such people as yourself to preserve the forum. Lately, he has spoken out against Lyman as well because he seems to side with you. Others have noted that as well.

The name calling against you fits. You and all democrats have proven to be anti-American but the mild cussing of course needs to stop here on this forum.

As far as Red running off anyone? No. Without you and your other names there would be no endless political BS pissing contest in the first place. This is why people leave and your only purpose here is to make sure of it.

[Roadkingtrax]

Other names? "Ye thou I walk through the valley of tin foil, I shall fear no smocking gun."

[lyman]

No. The difference between you and Red is you are a liberal on a conservative site trying to destroy what is left of it by it by contradicting every single thing everyone has to say. You feel you have to always get the last word in regardless of how irrelevant it is to the subject.

Red (these days) only rants and raises a ruckus against such people as yourself to preserve the forum. Lately, he has spoken out against Lyman as well because he seems to side with you. Others have noted that as well.

The name calling against you fits. You and all democrats have proven to be anti-American but the mild cussing of course needs to stop here on this forum.

As far as Red running off anyone? No. Without you and your other names there would be no endless political BS pissing contest in the first place. This is why people leave and your only purpose here is to make sure of it.

for the record, I side with no one,

since I took on the moderator role, as I was asked to, I simply enforce the rules,

unfortunately, some think that means I should ban those they disagree with,
others get all butthurt if I give them so much as a warning,


fact is, not one person can destroy this forum,

it takes all 6 of the supposedly ying\yang to do it,


sad part is,, all this could be avoided if some folks learned to debate or discuss issues with out having a temper tantrum, name calling, etc,



what's so hard about that?


btw,

raising a ruckus is what has caused this forum to lose membership,,

several old timers have come forward and stated that,,,,

[Vern Humphrey]

No. The difference between you and Red is you are a liberal on a conservative site trying to destroy what is left of it by it by contradicting every single thing everyone has to say. You feel you have to always get the last word in regardless of how irrelevant it is to the subject.

And that's why I put them on ignore. They have nothing to contribute but spite and bile.

[togor]

Gun Smoke,

Congratulations on your 93rd post over the past two months now.

[Gun Smoke]

Gun Smoke,

Congratulations on your 93rd post over the past two months now.

Is that suppose to mean something?

I'll bet my 93 post are more constructive than your 7500 anti-American liberal comments.

[Gun Smoke]

And that's why I put them on ignore. They have nothing to contribute but spite and bile.

Yep and surprise surprise. The only ones who oppose it are the "3" and the moderator. A lot of members may not have left after all. They may be simply avoiding the BS.

[lyman]

Yep and surprise surprise. The only ones who oppose it are the "3" and the moderator. A lot of members may not have left after all. They may be simply avoiding the BS.

to ignore something does not make it go away,

or them go away,


beat them at their own game,,, ,,,


or go hide,,


BTW , do any of you ever post outside this part of the forum?

[Roadkingtrax]

Yep and surprise surprise. The only ones who oppose it are the "3" and the moderator. A lot of members may not have left after all. They may be simply avoiding the BS.

I fully support the feature. However, I have to wonder how people function in the real world without that feature in their personal lives. Probably not invited to many dinner parties.

[Gun Smoke]

to ignore something does not make it go away,

or them go away,


beat them at their own game,,, ,,,


or go hide,,


BTW , do any of you ever post outside this part of the forum?

I do but unfortunately there isn't much other talk these days with the known liberal on this forum keeping the political arguments going but that's what you like otherwise you would support the ignore feature.

Clinton, biden, booker, sanders, warren are ignored by many of us too. They don't go away but life sure is more pleasant.

[togor]

Question for GS: who are you to decide what is or is not "American"? You throw the term "anti-American", which is loaded and inflammatory, around alot.

[Gun Smoke]

You proudly profess to be a liberal and anti-Trump (our president). You support candidates who want to turn America into a socialist/communist 3rd world nation. You contradict every single comment made here on this forum that supports our current administration.

Nuff said.

[Roadkingtrax]

Question for GS: who are you to decide what is or is not "American"? You throw the term "anti-American", which is loaded and inflammatory, around alot.

Funny how the non-Native born folks seem to repeat the same phrases, never learning the full flexibility of the English language. Makes them terribly easy to spot...🤔