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  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #1

    Dang that Donald Trump!

    Here are the closing stock market figures for election day 2016, and today's close.

    Ten Thousand points on the DOW in three years! Dang that Donald Trump!!
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  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    Imagine if he had anything to do with it?

    Deficit spending fallout will be around long after you're dead.
    Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 11-15-2019, 02:31.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • Sandpebble
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 2196

      #3
      If ya get out of the market in two years you might be laughing .... but let's see what ya got to say in four....

      but as has been mentioned in a post above .... I thought we were supposed to be concerned about the deficit... guess I was wrong.... trickle down... just like "Ron" taught us

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        I wonder if Trump owns Apple stock.

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        • oscars
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 551

          #5
          S&P 500 in the first 701 trading days of presidencies from S&P Historical Data
          Anecdotes are not data
          Ronald Reagan +26%
          George H W Bush +36%
          Bill Clinton +33%
          George W Bush -22%
          Barack Obama +60%
          Donald Trump +34%

          Presidents by term - increase or decrease

          1st term 2nd term
          Ronald Reagan
          +30% +67%

          George H W Bush
          +51%

          Bill Clinton
          +79% +73%

          George W Bush
          -12% -31%

          Barack Obama
          85% +53%

          Donald Trump (current)
          34%

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          • Gun Smoke
            Banned
            • Sep 2019
            • 1658

            #6
            The % increase after obama is mostly due to recovery of the crash the day after the election.

            While the markets plunged after obama's election they surged after Trumps election.

            You can trend back with this link but I remember it well.

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              GS you must not own stock based on your account of what went down in 2008.

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              • Gun Smoke
                Banned
                • Sep 2019
                • 1658

                #8
                Been in it since 1992 where all my IRA funds went. Was able to retire @ 57 and then started individual accounts so I kinda "DO" own stocks.

                My funds were locked in through the company I worked for when obama got placed into office in 2008 otherwise I would have done a stop loss and re-invested later.

                Like I said. I remember the crash well.

                Very dark times for America. Pun intended or not---I don't care.
                Last edited by Gun Smoke; 11-17-2019, 09:15.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9


                  Bad news in the economy swamped the election results that week.

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                  • Gun Smoke
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 1658

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    Bad news in the economy swamped the election results that week.
                    I know. Most of it came the day after the 2008 election. Trend it up.

                    Trump didn't inherit a great economy either but the stock didn't crash when he got elected. Instead, it shot up and has been breaking records since.

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                    • Roadkingtrax
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 7835

                      #11
                      The overall percentage should be noted, not that it's at a high...but percent from date to date. In this example Trump is as favorable to the markets as Obama was, and possibly HRC.
                      "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                        I know. Most of it came the day after the 2008 election. Trend it up.

                        Trump didn't inherit a great economy either but the stock didn't crash when he got elected. Instead, it shot up and has been breaking records since.
                        Your assertion of cause-and-effect between Obama's election and the stock market that week is also unpersuasive. Residual ODS, perhaps. In any case you more than made it back during his presidency, unless you made some ill-timed moves. If you stayed in and dollar-cost-averaged, you did fine.
                        Last edited by togor; 11-17-2019, 12:32.

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                        • Gun Smoke
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 1658

                          #13
                          Originally posted by togor
                          Your assertion of cause-and-effect between Obama's election and the stock market that week is also unpersuasive. Residual ODS, perhaps. In any case you more than made it back during his presidency, unless you made some ill-timed moves. If you stayed in and dollar-cost-averaged, you did fine.
                          Luckily it was short lived and I recovered. I would have made more money though had the market not crashed. Remember, I said I was locked in at the time. Investors never know how long or how severe a dip, crash or recession is going to be as far as buying and selling stocks.

                          More than anything else the market was a reflection of the shock of it all.

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                            I know. Most of it came the day after the 2008 election. Trend it up.

                            Trump didn't inherit a great economy either but the stock didn't crash when he got elected. Instead, it shot up and has been breaking records since.
                            And you know if the market were going down, they'd be damning and blackguarding him to the high heavens. If he has to take the blame for the bad, you have to give him credit for the good. And so far, there is no bad.

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                            • Roadkingtrax
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 7835

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                              And you know if the market were going down, they'd be damning and blackguarding him to the high heavens. If he has to take the blame for the bad, you have to give him credit for the good. And so far, there is no bad.
                              Same can be said since 2008. No bad.
                              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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