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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    Roger Stone Guilty

    Guilty of what? Not guilty of a crime other than making a mistake or lying to Federal Investigators that were investigating made up crimes that nobody was ever indicted or prosecuted. "Process Crimes," similar to Martha Stewarts conviction.

    What does this have to do with Trump... Not a damn thing. Stone was never a close advisor to Trump, but he sure as Hell wanted to be. ergo the lies and the conviction.
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    That's mafia thinking. There are good reasons for making it a crime to deliberately lie to government. That should be obvious, and probably even you agree in some cases. So feel free now to start your master class on when lying to the government is okay and when it isn't. You've got my full attention. This ought to be something.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11269

      #3
      crime is a crime,,

      he was found guilty cause they wanted someone to go down and use that for the optics of something was accomplished,

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        Or....he swore an oath to tell the truth and then proceeded to consciously violate that oath. Whether one believes the oath is before God or not (Red and Stone clearly do not), such oaths ought to mean something in our country, even when the subject involves Trump somehow. My personal opinion.

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11269

          #5
          he committed the crime, that in the past may have gotten him a slap on the wrist , or maybe just retirement,

          instead it is 'big news' and guilty by association for the rest

          remember,, our media, and politicians, have a habit of screaming Guilty,, then try to find a reason why,, vs doing what they should, prove it before they claim it,,

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            Stone was found guilty by a jury. I think one of the problems today is people take it too easy on white collar crime, and some guys get the wrong message. The "lock her up" crowd agrees I'm sure.

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            • RED
              Very Senior Member - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11689

              #7
              If you lie about a non criminal act, you can go to jail. If that rule were applied to togut, sandpecker, and roadkilleater, they would be in prison for the next 100 years.

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Written like someone who just doesn't care anymore. Good! Stop caring!

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                • RED
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11689

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Stone was found guilty by a jury. I think one of the problems today is people take it too easy on white collar crime, and some guys get the wrong message. The "lock her up" crowd agrees I'm sure.
                  So the jury found he is guilty of lying under oath... Where is the evidence that Trump paid/told/forced/blackmailed him to do that???? Stone's crimes have nothing to do with DJT... Stone was just trying to feather his own nest.

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                  • Sandpebble
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 2196

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RED
                    So the jury found he is guilty of lying under oath... Where is the evidence that Trump paid/told/forced/blackmailed him to do that???? Stone's crimes have nothing to do with DJT... Stone was just trying to feather his own nest.
                    No Red ... you are wrong as Stone did more than just try to feather his own nest ....

                    He associated with Julian Assange .... you know ... the guy who's devoted his life to the down fall of the United States ..... the guy that's likely under the employ of Russia

                    And Stone did so in the hopes it would benefit his friend ... Donald Trump .

                    He goes to jail just as he should because he dealt gladly with those that would do us all harm, ..... just like like all the others on the "team",

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                    • Johnny P
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6260

                      #11
                      Bill Clinton lied under oath, and finally admitted he lied under oath. Didn't serve a day in jail. It was so easy that he and Hillary concocted a money laundering scheme called "The Clinton Foundation". The donations have dropped off drastically though after Hillary lost for the second time. Imagine that!

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                      • Roadkingtrax
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 7835

                        #12
                        Who's Roger Stone?
                        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RED
                          So the jury found he is guilty of lying under oath... Where is the evidence that Trump paid/told/forced/blackmailed him to do that???? Stone's crimes have nothing to do with DJT... Stone was just trying to feather his own nest.
                          The Trump ties are:

                          1. Stone was availing himself to the Trump campaign, garnering interest at the highest level.

                          2. Trump has tweeted that Stone got a raw deal from the jury.
                          Last edited by togor; 11-16-2019, 04:34. Reason: Typos

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                          • RED
                            Very Senior Member - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11689

                            #14
                            Another complete lie

                            ... by a compulsive anti-American.

                            And Stone did so in the hopes it would benefit his friend ... Donald Trump .
                            Stone and Trump have never been friends... Stone spent decades damaging the foundations of American politics before Trump ever considered politics as a alternative to his businesses. Stone worked for both Republicans and Democrats... In your upside down crazy world he was "friends," with Eric Spitzer, Ronald Reagan, and Bob Dole.

                            Your mind is folded into an omelet of hate, despair, and bigotry. You have no moral compass and your hatred not only extends to the Ten Commandments, The Bill Of Rights, but your own father.

                            You are a despicable piece of human debris, in a toilet that needs to be flushed.
                            Last edited by RED; 11-16-2019, 08:38.

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RED
                              ... by a compulsive anti-American.



                              Stone and Trump have never been friends... Stone spent decades damaging the foundations of American politics before Trump ever considered politics as a alternative to his businesses. Stone worked for both Republicans and Democrats... In your upside down crazy world he was "friends," with Eric Spitzer, Ronald Reagan, and Bob Dole.

                              Your mind is folded into an omelet of hate, despair, and bigotry. You have no moral compass and your hatred not only extends to the Ten Commandments, The Bill Of Rights, but your own father.

                              You are a despicable piece of human debris, in a toilet that needs to be flushed.
                              Note to the mod(s):

                              My mother-in-law, with her 5 young kids, swore that if she ever got to "three" there would be h*ll to pay. As her kids remember it, there was a lot of "one...two...ONE....TWO....ONE....TWO...."

                              Find myself wondering if that's going on with Red--threatening "three" but never getting there. I wonder how many people like logging in to read Red's bile eruptions.


                              Okay, Red:

                              I never said Trump and Stone were friends. Trump doesn't have any friends per se. He has people he does transactions with. And then there are people who share his misanthropic view of the world. And the sycophants who feel the gravitational tug to his orbit, profess loyalty in exchange for a license to steal. But friends, as in people who like him just because, with nothing to gain, and for whom he feels the same? Nope, none of those. Maybe that's why you feel such a kinship with him.

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