Just saw today, that Trump does things differently.

[Roadkingtrax]

You and your friends hillary and kerry sure do love those Russians.

It's practically all you talk about.

I take issue with your disregard for the Bill of Rights, in favor of contradictory and biased political opinions. Your language is insulting to the freedoms that "we" US citizens enjoy across all viewpoints.

The drum you keep beating is totalitarian in nature, and if you're being honest, would see the danger in it. At this point you are supplanting the constitution, all while proclaiming to support the 2nd Amendment? That makes absolutely zero sense. You must therefore be regarded as a Fudd, or simply someone with the goal of upsetting civil discourse.

[Gun Smoke]

I take issue with your disregard for the Bill of Rights, in favor of contradictory and biased political opinions. Your language is insulting to the freedoms that "we" US citizens enjoy across all viewpoints.

The drum you keep beating is totalitarian in nature, and if you're being honest, would see the danger in it. At this point you are supplanting the constitution, all while proclaiming to support the 2nd Amendment? That makes absolutely zero sense. You must therefore be regarded as a Fudd, or simply someone with the goal of upsetting civil discourse.

In other words you have no explanation for always speaking about the Russians, the Nazis and Trumps bone spur?

[Roadkingtrax]

In other words you have no explanation for always speaking about the Russians, the Nazis and Trumps bone spur?

I dont speak of the Russians, I call them out when attempting to infiltrate gunboats with fake ads, and fake accounts. I dont speak of Nazis, that's a Sam and Vern thing...and to be honest, that's probably run it's course. Trump got out of military service, like a long line of privileged people, that's a stain on one's character and speaks to his lack of duty.

You apparently do not own firearms or have military service in your background, but that's OK...you've shown it does not matter to you.

[Gun Smoke]

I dont speak of the Russians, I call them out when attempting to infiltrate gunboats with fake ads, and fake accounts. I dont speak of Nazis, that's a Sam and Vern thing...and to be honest, that's probably run it's course. Trump got out of military service, like a long line of privileged people, that's a stain on one's character and speaks to his lack of duty.

You apparently do not own firearms or have military service in your background, but that's OK...you've shown it does not matter to you.

Sure

(crickets chirping)

[rayg]

I dont speak of the Russians, I call them out when attempting to infiltrate gunboats with fake ads, and fake accounts. I dont speak of Nazis, that's a Sam and Vern thing...and to be honest, that's probably run it's course. Trump got out of military service, like a long line of privileged people, that's a stain on one's character and speaks to his lack of duty.

You apparently do not own firearms or have military service in your background, but that's OK...you've shown it does not matter to you.

Oh come on..I had served in the military and own guns but just because a person didn't, does not mean he's any less of American. If that's the case we have a majority of non Americans in this country. Sam an Vern in my opinion, from what I have read of their posts, are true Americans. However, in my opinion I think the jury is still out on you ..

[Gun Smoke]

Oh come on..I had served in the military and own guns but just because a person didn't, does not mean he's any less of American. If that's the case we have a majority of non Americans in this country. Sam an Vern in my opinion, from what I have read of their posts, are true Americans. However, in my opinion I think the jury is still out on you ..

Thank you and I own plenty of guns myself, there just isn't always a discussion needed about them and have no doubt forgotten more about guns than he will ever be able to look up.

Togor/Sandpebble/Roadkingtrax/others think that just because he "demands" something that it is suppose to be answered. Most of the time he is gathering info to use against you later such as your demographics, political views and such.

[Roadkingtrax]

Oh come on..I had served in the military and own guns but just because a person didn't, does not mean he's any less of American. If that's the case we have a majority of non Americans in this country. Sam an Vern in my opinion, from what I have read of their posts, are true Americans. However, in my opinion I think the jury is still out on you ..

Ray, this isn't a debate about your mental construct of what "True Americans" are (You'll have to explain that in another thread since you brought it up). You're also free to follow Gunsmoke's ill-contrived strawman into the wilderness, but it's evident he's not worth the trouble.

The point to Gunsmoke was (and to you if the cotton is out of your ears)...those that would scream blue in the face to limit one right, and argue violently in favor of another down the list, have a rather limited view of what freedoms are. The reasoned person understands that you take the media for what they are. If you feel good reading a Huffpost article or Fox News editorial, you probably favor that bias.

[Roadkingtrax]

Thank you and I own plenty of guns myself, there just isn't always a discussion needed about them and have no doubt forgotten more about guns than he will ever be able to look up.

Put up or Shut Up. All smoke and no bang, aptly named perhaps.

[Gun Smoke]

Funny

Acting like a scared child.

What does your name/names mean?

[lyman]

let's not turn this into a name calling fest,

please

[togor]

One I'm watching is Trump and Eddie Gallagher. The Navy brass wants to pull his trident, Trump says "no way". Trump's embrace of someone who gives the SEALS a black eye is noteworthy. With his saying previously that "we're not so innocent" to now ordering a dismissal of charges, it's as though one of his action items while in the job is to diminish the moral reputation of the US military.

One can only imagine what Ivan thinks of this. Actually, imagination is not necessary. Ivan stands ready to use it to his propaganda advantage.

Added: the Fox New counter-narrative team might struggle with this one for awhile

[rayg]

Nothing new! Right after WWII the US forgave many German's for crimes they committed if they had a talent or skill or knowledge the US could use or needed or was politically motivated to do so. Some responsible for many more deaths then one.

[togor]

Ray does Werner von Braun mean we can't police our own forces? I know of no good reason for CinC injecting himself down the chain of command on this one, and can think of multiple bad reasons.

[Gun Smoke]

Nothing new! Right after WWII the US forgave many German's for crimes they committed if they had a talent or skill or knowledge the US could use or needed or was politically motivated to do so. Some responsible for many more deaths then one.

Not only that we had to rush in and offer them "deals" to come to America. Russia and others were wanting them too.

W/o Albert Speer (a close ally of hitler) there wouldn't have been a Saturn rocket program to put the first man on the moon or at least it would have come about much later.

[togor]

You mean Werner von Braun as I posted, right? Pretty obvious error there.