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  • togor
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    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #16
    Lyman you triggered when you didn't have to. I stand by my original usage of r---. Who is twisting?

    As for going back to the topic, why not? DT doesn't like thread drift, and the topic is an interesting one to me. I'm actually glad they're going to do the experiment. My prediction is that it won't work out the way they think, but I have buddies who say exactly the opposite. We get to see.

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #17
      My guess is, the knuckleheads in Brussels will cave.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11269

        #18
        Originally posted by togor
        Lyman you triggered when you didn't have to. I stand by my original usage of r---. Who is twisting?

        As for going back to the topic, why not? DT doesn't like thread drift, and the topic is an interesting one to me. I'm actually glad they're going to do the experiment. My prediction is that it won't work out the way they think, but I have buddies who say exactly the opposite. We get to see.
        you missed my point and are now backpeddling like you are innocent of all,,,

        not me twisting,

        please refrain from continuing down that path

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        Originally posted by dogtag
        My guess is, the knuckleheads in Brussels will cave.
        likely,

        however wondering if they will try to get the courts involved

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        • Vern Humphrey
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 15875

          #19
          Originally posted by lyman
          you missed my point and are now backpeddling like you are innocent of all,,,

          not me twisting,

          please refrain from continuing down that path

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          likely,

          however wondering if they will try to get the courts involved
          They're not likely to have much success at that -- those courts have jurisdiction only over EU members, and Britain will no longer be a member.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #20

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #21
              ^^^Those proportions are correct.

              The American and European Health Care Insurance companies have been licking their chops to get into the the UK health markets. My bet is the former is heavier in Trump's ear.

              From December 5th,"Prime Minister Boris Johnson said recently that his country’s National Health Service would not be on the table in any upcoming trade talks."
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • lyman
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 11269

                #22
                one thing I am reading is the folks in the UK, much like the folks here in the USA, are tired of all the PC SJW stuff that is apparently just as prevalent here. (government and media)

                the 'ruling class' 'young liberals' ' actors' and basically those in the media want to stay in the EU, the avg guy/gal in the UK is tired of it and wants out,

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #23
                  Yes many people want to see some things "fixed". But selling Brexit as a free lunch may have repercussions when the price of fixing certain things is known. Value is subjective so until this thing plays out, nobody knows.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11269

                    #24
                    a lot of that value has yet to be worked out,

                    surely some will be butthurt, and some will make out.
                    nature of the beast,

                    the EU may try to do tariff's on UK stuff, or not,
                    the UK meanwhile is out from under Brussel's skirt, which a lot want to happen, and can set trade deals on their own, that will benefit the UK,

                    guessing there may be some panic, and maybe some initial pain for some companies (like MINI) that build cars in the UK with EU parts , but surely that will be worked out quickly,


                    as far as Scotland, what I have seen mentioned is that if they do become as separate Country (not likely) they will have to go thru the same initiation process to become a member of the EU as any other country,
                    which supposedly takes years,

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #25
                      Originally posted by lyman
                      as far as Scotland, what I have seen mentioned is that if they do become as separate Country (not likely) they will have to go thru the same initiation process to become a member of the EU as any other country,
                      which supposedly takes years,
                      I have no hope for Scotland. The Americans and Irish fought and bled to gain independence from England. The Scots had it handed to them on a silver platter and didn't have the cojones to take it.

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                      • oscars
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 551

                        #26
                        Humps you are quite clueless. Scotland bases Royal Navy nuclear submarines (Trident equipped as a nuclear deterrent to Russia) at both Clyde and Faslane) In addition. the largest regiment in the British Army (Royal Regiment of Scotland) becomes questionable in the event of Scottish independence. What did your vaunted Ireland do in both Iraqi and Afghani wars to help the US? The Royal Regiment fought extensively in the Parrots' Beak as well as the the rest of Helmand Province.

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                        • dogtag
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 14985

                          #27
                          Originally posted by oscars
                          Humps you are quite clueless. Scotland bases Royal Navy nuclear submarines (Trident equipped as a nuclear deterrent to Russia) at both Clyde and Faslane) In addition. the largest regiment in the British Army (Royal Regiment of Scotland) becomes questionable in the event of Scottish independence. What did your vaunted Ireland do in both Iraqi and Afghani wars to help the US? The Royal Regiment fought extensively in the Parrots' Beak as well as the the rest of Helmand Province.
                          Right, and Vern seems to have forgotten about the numerous battles
                          between English and Scottish Troops. I don't think the Scots would
                          consider their Independence was "handed to them on a plate"
                          considering the amount of Scottish blood that was spilt - especially
                          at Colloden

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11269

                            #28
                            Originally posted by oscars
                            Humps you are quite clueless. Scotland bases Royal Navy nuclear submarines (Trident equipped as a nuclear deterrent to Russia) at both Clyde and Faslane) In addition. the largest regiment in the British Army (Royal Regiment of Scotland) becomes questionable in the event of Scottish independence. What did your vaunted Ireland do in both Iraqi and Afghani wars to help the US? The Royal Regiment fought extensively in the Parrots' Beak as well as the the rest of Helmand Province.

                            I have read that Scotland will likely not seek independence (this came from a post in a thread elsewhere about the situation) since they are considered bought and paid for by the English, and they like to talk about independence yet don't want to foot the cost of being independent,


                            and yes, I would want them on my side as well

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #29
                              Originally posted by dogtag
                              Right, and Vern seems to have forgotten about the numerous battles
                              between English and Scottish Troops. I don't think the Scots would
                              consider their Independence was "handed to them on a plate"
                              considering the amount of Scottish blood that was spilt - especially
                              at Colloden
                              That was then and this is now. The Scots recently voted down Independence.

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                              Originally posted by lyman
                              I have read that Scotland will likely not seek independence (this came from a post in a thread elsewhere about the situation) since they are considered bought and paid for by the English, and they like to talk about independence yet don't want to foot the cost of being independent,
                              My point, exactly.

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