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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Judge orders 200,000 illegal Wisconsin voter registrations deleted ...

    But the election commission sues instead because
    those voters are most probably democrats and they
    need every last one of those illegal votes in order to
    have a chance of winning in 2020.

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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    DT, 3 voters are taken on by an out of state organization with a curated list of names heavily weighted towards blue dots, filing suit in a favorable venue. Then a county judge rules for them, refuses to let other parties enter the suit, and refuses to enjoin his own decision pending appeal. (Even the judges ruling against Trump agree to injunctions while Trump appeals).

    Thanks for posting. This is a great example of how Republicans try to win elections. Wisconsin has paper ballots, and they record every voter who has a paper ballot issued, and you have to show ID. Wisconsin has no election fraud to speak of.

    Added: and if you move and register in a new location in the state, you are automatically dropped from the old location. This is as pure a voter suppression play as there is. If this judge was biased in the opposite direction, Gun Smoke would have him stood at a wall and shot.
    Last edited by togor; 12-16-2019, 05:16.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11268

      #3
      Originally posted by togor
      DT, 3 voters are taken on by an out of state organization with a curated list of names heavily weighted towards blue dots, filing suit in a favorable venue. Then a county judge rules for them, refuses to let other parties enter the suit, and refuses to enjoin his own decision pending appeal. (Even the judges ruling against Trump agree to injunctions while Trump appeals).

      Thanks for posting. This is a great example of how Republicans try to win elections. Wisconsin has paper ballots, and they record every voter who has a paper ballot issued, and you have to show ID. Wisconsin has no election fraud to speak of.

      Added: and if you move and register in a new location in the state, you are automatically dropped from the old location. This is as pure a voter suppression play as there is. If this judge was biased in the opposite direction, Gun Smoke would have him stood at a wall and shot.
      so you should be allowed to vote in both locations?

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        "... automatically dropped from the old location..."

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        • rayg
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 7444

          #5
          double post
          Last edited by rayg; 12-17-2019, 05:58.

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          • rayg
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7444

            #6
            I believe every municipality, village, city etc. in Wisconsin, has and controls their own voting functions and lists. I don't believe the state has direct over site of those lists. I think those municipalities just provide the results of their voting count to the county clerk who forwards the results to the state.
            I became a resident in Florida a few years ago and I bet my name is probably still on the Wis voting list in WI as I still am part owner along with my wife for a house in WI. Which means I probably could still vote in WI also, I think. If a renter moves, he will probably be carried on the voting list for a while as he is not on a property roll. So I can see why those voting lists should be up dated and brought up to date every few years. Ray
            Last edited by rayg; 12-17-2019, 04:39.

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11268

              #7
              Originally posted by togor
              "... automatically dropped from the old location..."
              'if you move and register in a new location in the state'


              so again, would you rather they vote in both?

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              • Gun Smoke
                Banned
                • Sep 2019
                • 1658

                #8
                A large percentage of the people today are basically gypsy's due to foreclosures, sexual abusers, running from creditors, running from the law and other reasons. The places they last left from may not clean up the voter registration log for years so yes, these are some of the voters who can vote more than once.

                I see some homes in my area less than 20 years old that have had 10-20 different owners over the years. Seems that hardly anyone likes to pay their rent or mortgage these days. The banks give out money way too easily.

                All the more reason that ID be present to vote and NO one should be allowed to possess more than one SS number. Both should be required to vote or at least to register. If done properly I believe this would do away with multiple voting and grave yard voting. Both of which the democrats heavily rely on.

                State voting results should go into a nationwide databank where the identified voter, after voting, should have his name and SS# recorded.

                Most other civilized countries don't seem to have our voter problems.

                It isn't rocket surgery and could be remedied overnight but so many rely upon corruption.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lyman
                  'if you move and register in a new location in the state'


                  so again, would you rather they vote in both?
                  What don't you understand? You go to a polling place, and you're on the rolls or you're not. If you're not, you don't vote. When you move from one part of the state to another, you get dropped from the rolls. The rolls are computerized, and so a person only shows up in one place at a time in Wisconsin.

                  Here's one for you: absentee ballots. This could be a problem in many states. An older person, cursed by dementia, is still on the voter rolls. Their caregiver fills out the ballot for them, assuming that they "know" how the person will vote. The paperwork may need a signature, but the command "here sign this" by a trusted loved one is easily followed. Fraud or not? If the person cannot reasonably perform all of the mental tasks associated with voting, should they be able to submit a ballot? If physical infirmity prevents their physically traveling to the polling place, then an absentee ballot is an excellent option. But if mentally they cannot grasp what they are doing, should their caregiver be able to process that ballot for them? I'll bet you that one does happen a lot.

                  Added: 3 million or more of Trump's votes nationwide could have been produced this way.
                  Last edited by togor; 12-17-2019, 05:47.

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                  • Gun Smoke
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 1658

                    #10
                    The ballots (rolls ???) do NOT drop your name when you move or die. At least not in a timely fashion. I notice dead people's names on the ballot when I vote from time to time. With all the foreclosures and people moving like ants in an anthill there's no way the courthouse can keep up, nor do they want to.

                    Politicians who are running for office can't even have their name removed if they decide to drop out or die months before an election. Think how much less concern it is for residents/voters.

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                    • rayg
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 7444

                      #11
                      Quote: Togor,

                      "Added: 3 million or more of Trump's votes nationwide could have been produced this way".

                      Or 3 million Dem votes added, maybe it would even out, Lol
                      Last edited by rayg; 12-17-2019, 06:12.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11268

                        #12
                        Originally posted by togor
                        What don't you understand? You go to a polling place, and you're on the rolls or you're not. If you're not, you don't vote. When you move from one part of the state to another, you get dropped from the rolls. The rolls are computerized, and so a person only shows up in one place at a time in Wisconsin.

                        Here's one for you: absentee ballots. This could be a problem in many states. An older person, cursed by dementia, is still on the voter rolls. Their caregiver fills out the ballot for them, assuming that they "know" how the person will vote. The paperwork may need a signature, but the command "here sign this" by a trusted loved one is easily followed. Fraud or not? If the person cannot reasonably perform all of the mental tasks associated with voting, should they be able to submit a ballot? If physical infirmity prevents their physically traveling to the polling place, then an absentee ballot is an excellent option. But if mentally they cannot grasp what they are doing, should their caregiver be able to process that ballot for them? I'll bet you that one does happen a lot.

                        Added: 3 million or more of Trump's votes nationwide could have been produced this way.
                        did you read your own post??????




                        Rolls,,, lol,



                        plain English,


                        when you register in your new location (as in you moved to another voting precinct,,,,,, duh) you are automatically taken off the old location,


                        so you would rather,, to restate the question, vote on main street, then drive over to broad street, (in a different voting precinct) and vote again??




                        *************************sigh********************* *****


                        not hard to understand here,,,

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                        • S.A. Boggs
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 8568

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lyman
                          did you read your own post??????




                          Rolls,,, lol,



                          plain English,


                          when you register in your new location (as in you moved to another voting precinct,,,,,, duh) you are automatically taken off the old location,


                          so you would rather,, to restate the question, vote on main street, then drive over to broad street, (in a different voting precinct) and vote again??




                          *************************sigh********************* *****


                          not hard to understand here,,,
                          Lyman, you are talking to a brick wall.
                          Sam

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                          • togor
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 17610

                            #14
                            Originally posted by lyman
                            did you read your own post??????




                            Rolls,,, lol,



                            plain English,


                            when you register in your new location (as in you moved to another voting precinct,,,,,, duh) you are automatically taken off the old location,


                            so you would rather,, to restate the question, vote on main street, then drive over to broad street, (in a different voting precinct) and vote again??




                            *************************sigh********************* *****


                            not hard to understand here,,,
                            You cannot go back to the old street without re-registering there because you're not on the rolls there.

                            If you register at your old place, say with old ID, on election day, they will mark you as having issued you a ballot. If you also vote at the new place, they will mark you there as having issued you a ballot.

                            In the post election audits, you'll come up as having voted twice. You seem to have this mental picture that poor people go around cannily working the election bureaucracy. The reality is just the opposite. And at some level you know this, which is why you support purging the voter rolls. Just another technique from the South that the GOP took national.

                            Added: URL of the Wisconsin voter registration form.

                            https://elections.wi.gov/sites/defau...730.pdfhttp://
                            Last edited by togor; 12-17-2019, 09:11. Reason: fix autocorrects

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #15
                              Originally posted by S.A. Boggs
                              Lyman, you are talking to a brick wall.
                              Sam
                              And a mud brick wall, at that. Note how the left keeps proclaiming there is no voter fraud in this country, despite the overwhelming evidence.

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