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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #16
    Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
    Yep. If the Senate decides to act, who can prevent them?
    It's about managing perceptions at this point.

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    • dogtag
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 14985

      #17
      Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
      No, not true. The President is impeached as soon as the votes are counted and certified -- which they have been. Now the Senate is in charge.

      Article 1, Section 3:
      Clause 6: The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

      The Senate can act as they please. The President has been impeached, and whether the charges have been forwarded or not, he IS impeached and they can act.




      As I said, the Constitution
      You can't charge a person, not bother going to trial, but declare him guilty.
      Did you forget about "Innocent until proven guilty" ?

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      • Roadkingtrax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 7835

        #18
        Dogtag, the President at every turn has refused to allow witnesses.
        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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        • High Plaines Doug r
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 267

          #19
          Again:
          Until Congress submits articles of impeachment, there is no purpose or authority for the Senate to do ANYTHING:
          The Congress presents/submits articles of impeachment. THEN the Senate tries the accused on these charges. Prior to that, it's just arm waving

          "http://cvhs-teacher.com/cassidy/govt...mpeachment.htm"

          The above address does not impress me as any authority on Constitutional law unless someone here can give me some citation? "cvhs-teacher.com" = Capistrano valley high school - teacher.com. Really?

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          • RED
            Very Senior Member - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 11689

            #20
            Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
            Dogtag, the President at every turn has refused to allow witnesses.
            Another complete lie... Mueller questioned 500 witnesses, The House had testimony from dozens of witnesses. There are three branches of the government that supposedly share power..

            RTK thinks the House alone can order the Executive Branch to do their bidding. He has no idea how unconstitutional that is.

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #21
              Originally posted by RED
              Another complete lie... Mueller questioned 500 witnesses, The House had testimony from dozens of witnesses. There are three branches of the government that supposedly share power..

              RTK thinks the House alone can order the Executive Branch to do their bidding. He has no idea how unconstitutional that is.
              Mueller, Mueller? Why are you talking about Mueller?
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #22
                Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                Mueller, Mueller? Why are you talking about Mueller?
                Exactly. When he goes off like this, he reminds me of an American tourist abroad who thinks he can get his point across by shouting. The subject is Ukraine and Trump's refusal to permit the inner circle to give a truthful account under oath. Curious if Red calls that a lie too.
                Last edited by togor; 12-20-2019, 07:17. Reason: typo

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