Famous last words

[Gun Smoke]

Yeah that's the applicable standard....something. Let's engrave that on his post-presidency participation award.

Doing something is something your political party doesn't understand.

[Roadkingtrax]

Yeah that's the applicable standard....something. Let's engrave that on his post-presidency participation award.

It makes more sense now.

https://www.businessinsider.com/qassem-soleimani-called-trump-a-casino-manager-2018-speech-iran-2020-1?utm_source=reddit.com

"In the wake of the US airstrike that killed Iran's top general, a video has resurfaced of Qassem Soleimani giving a speech in which he likened President Donald Trump to a "bartender or a casino manager."

[RED]

The Obama administration was one big coward in action. They tried to buy the Iranian's friendship with billions of cash dollars which was spent enriching uranium and buying high tech Russian weapons. They openly violated the agreement and when Trump called them on it he was ridiculed by the leftist traitors.

It is already a full out war to the death between Islam and everybody else in the world. If they could (and it may become possible) kill every non Muslim residing on planet earth... they would do it in a New York second. Instead of the rest of the world uniting and defending themselves, they cower and surrender. Thank God that somebody on Earth is fighting for a civilized world.

soleimani-called-trump-a-casino-manager-2018-speech-iran-2020-1?utm_source=reddit.com

So who was right. Trump was a casino owner and Soleimani was a mass murderer. The stooges vote in favor of the mass murderer.

[rayg]

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"In the wake of the US airstrike that killed Iran's top general, a video has resurfaced of Qassem Soleimani giving a speech in which he likened President Donald Trump to a "bartender or a casino manager."[/QUOTE]

Turns out, it wasn't too smart of him to say that as Trump demonstrated he's a bit more then a bartender or casino manager......Lol

[lyman]

The Obama administration was one big coward in action. They tried to buy the Iranian's friendship with billions of cash dollars which was spent enriching uranium and buying high tech Russian weapons. They openly violated the agreement and when Trump called them on it he was ridiculed by the leftist traitors.

It is already a full out war to the death between Islam and everybody else in the world. If they could (and it may become possible) kill every non Muslim residing on planet earth... they would do it in a New York second. Instead of the rest of the world uniting and defending themselves, they cower and surrender. Thank God that somebody on Earth is fighting for a civilized world.



So who was right. Trump was a casino owner and Soleimani was a mass murderer. The stooges vote in favor of the mass murderer.

yes and no,

as far as the kill or convert part,

if we (the western world) did not exist, where would the rich folk go to get educated, drink, act like frat boys, and basically do what they are supposedly not allowed to do at home?

[togor]

Red's alternative facts aside, it's clear that Trump has bet the farm on regime change, his claims to the contrary notwithstanding.

From the Iranian point of view, there is no reason to believe Trump won't rip up any future deal and demand a renegotiation on even harsher terms. So at this point the Mullahs will take their chances that that their regime outlasts his. Even so no one trusts Americans now in that part of the world, if they did before.

[lyman]

Red's alternative facts aside, it's clear that Trump has bet the farm on regime change, his claims to the contrary notwithstanding.

From the Iranian point of view, there is no reason to believe Trump won't rip up any future deal and demand a renegotiation on even harsher terms. So at this point the Mullahs will take their chances that that their regime outlasts his. Even so no one trusts Americans now in that part of the world, if they did before.

you preach past history but seem to ignore it on this point,


we (and other nations) have had our hands in that mud pie for a long time, and while we may have had grand intentions, we (and others) have also screwed up in regards to the middle east,

[Gun Smoke]

From the Iranian point of view

Could we have even expected you to have a different point of view?

[togor]

Could we have even expected you to have a different point of view?

You never consider your opponent's viewpoint?

Figures.

[Gun Smoke]

You never consider your opponent's viewpoint?

Figures.

Yes, but not solely the opponent whereas to make resistance, negative rebuttal comments to every single positive comment made on this forum.

[togor]

you preach past history but seem to ignore it on this point,


we (and other nations) have had our hands in that mud pie for a long time, and while we may have had grand intentions, we (and others) have also screwed up in regards to the middle east,

Getting mixed messages, help me out?

Bad Bush tried to play world cop and invaded Iraq.

Bad Obama stopped playing world cop in Iraq.

Good Trump stopped playing world cop in Syria.

Not so good Trump ditched our only friends in the region, the Kurds, and stopped fighting ISIS in Syria.

Good that Trump is trying to play world financial cop and force Iranians to....do something.

Good that Trump retaliates to some property damage in the Baghdad green zone by assassinating a high Iranian government official.

Good that Trump threatens the bejeezus out of the Iranians

Not good (maybe) if Trump gets us into ground conflict with the Iranians.

Okay if Trump gets us in war with Iran so long as it's a mano-a-mano grudge match and not us playing world cop?

[Roadkingtrax]

Yes, but not solely the opponent whereas to make resistance, negative rebuttal comments to every single positive comment made on this forum.

You just contradicted yourself.

[togor]

Yes, but not solely the opponent whereas to make resistance, negative rebuttal comments to every single positive comment made on this forum.

You reflexively support Trump in all actions, no thought required. I'm trying to figure out if what he's doing makes sense and if I agree with it. You're exercising your right as a loyal subject of an authoritarian regime. I'm exercising mine as a free American. To each their own.

[Gun Smoke]

You just contradicted yourself.

togor 08:38
Roadkingtrax 08:38

08:39 the only one logged on was togor

Nah, you're not the same person at all.

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You reflexively support Trump in all actions, no thought required. I'm trying to figure out if what he's doing makes sense and if I agree with it. You're exercising your right as a loyal subject of an authorization regime. I'm exercising mine as a free American. To each their own.

I support Trump, our president.

I suppose you are doing the same, whoever your president may be.

[lyman]

Getting mixed messages, help me out?

Bad Bush tried to play world cop and invaded Iraq.

Bad Obama stopped playing world cop in Iraq.

Good Trump stopped playing world cop in Syria.

Not so good Trump ditched our only friends in the region, the Kurds, and stopped fighting ISIS in Syria.

Good that Trump is trying to play world financial cop and force Iranians to....do something.

Good that Trump retaliates to some property damage in the Baghdad green zone by assassinating a high Iranian government official.

Good that Trump threatens the bejeezus out of the Iranians

Not good (maybe) if Trump gets us into ground conflict with the Iranians.

Okay if Trump gets us in war with Iran so long as it's a mano-a-mano grudge match and not us playing world cop?

it they did before,



before as in ,,,,,,,,,,???


history goes back further than 1992 (Bush I),


think about it,