Iran Responds

[dryheat]

-Perhaps the democrats urged the Iranians to attack the U.S. embassy in Iraq.-
Oh, good Lord.
Even if it is WWIII it wouldn't hurt to step back, take a deep breath and count to ten. But I think it's a dust up. I could be wrong now, but I don't think so.

[Gun Smoke]

-Perhaps the democrats urged the Iranians to attack the U.S. embassy in Iraq.-
Oh, good Lord.
Even if it is WWIII it wouldn't hurt to step back, take a deep breath and count to ten. But I think it's a dust up. I could be wrong now, but I don't think so.

Really ??? Getting muslims to attack a U.S. embassy isn't hard to do, in fact it seems it is harder to get them not to attack.

Who wants Trump out of office? Iran and the democrats

Who hates America? Iran and the democrats

Iran isn't worried about WWIII knowing they will have Russia and China backing them.

All the other U.S. presidents have been cowards against Iran. They haven't tested Trump yet.

Iran wants another democrat president so their sanctions will be lifted and they'll be back on the taxpayers payroll.

And look at the timing of it all with the impeachment, which was rush, rush, rush, now on indefinite hold till "something" comes up that will persuade Trump supporters to impeach. Think the democrats may have had something up their sleeve?

[dryheat]

-Who hates America? Iran and the democrats-
and vegetarians.

-Iran isn't worried about WWIII knowing they will have Russia and China backing them.-
I'm sure they are looking forward to a wonderful time. Maybe WWIII will be a departure from the previous WW's.
-Iran wants another democrat president so their sanctions will be lifted and they'll be back on the taxpayers payroll.-
Nothing would surprise me.
-till "something" comes up that will persuade Trump supporters to impeach.-
Again,nothing would surprise me(Charlton Heston ran into the same aggravation).

[togor]

Well genius, if the English language wasn't such a chore for you to understand you would see that I said embassy in Iraq, a place where Iranians had no business being in the first place. What would have happened beyond that point would have been unpredictable.

If obama or hillary were in office they would be sending them billions of our dollars.

Please get a translator or stay the fk out of our threads.

Whether you hinge your argument on the green zone or the hit, it doesn't matter. Your argument starts with Pelosi and George Soros getting together with the Iranians and finishes with the administration blundering into war. Again, genius. That also shows how little you think of the decision-making capabilities of the Trump Administration. Luckily for them they're not nearly as dumb as you think they are.

[S.A. Boggs]

-Perhaps the democrats urged the Iranians to attack the U.S. embassy in Iraq.-
Oh, good Lord.
Even if it is WWIII it wouldn't hurt to step back, take a deep breath and count to ten. But I think it's a dust up. I could be wrong now, but I don't think so.

This situation can get real interesting real quick. Dead people on either side is not a positive for anyone to want to happen.
Russia/China want and need a weaker America that is a certain and letting someone else weaken America is a positive for them. China doesn't want to lose the American market as this will hurt them at home and get their people ticked off at them. Russia on the other hand has more to gain from a weakened America. It would be much better for America to weaken Iran economically then use our military to bomb in Iran proper. Close off all of their naval parts with a blockade of mines and air assets is a possibility. Use psy ops against them in their own country is also a plausibility, stir up the natives a little bit. Let them know that their refiners are a target too that our missiles can hit. How upset would their population get with no gas?
Sam

[Art]

Early reports this morning indicate that the Iranian missile strike was so inaccurate they may have intentionally missed. If so its nice to know that pretending to do something while doing nothing is not an exclusively American or Western trait.

[Gun Smoke]

Early reports this morning indicate that the Iranian missile strike was so inaccurate they may have intentionally missed. If so its nice to know that pretending to do something while doing nothing is not an exclusively American or Western trait.

I wonder if these are the old scud missiles like Iraq use to fire at Israel? I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end but they are basically large fireworks with not much of a guidance system.

The ragheads like these because they can be fired from a portable launcher so the actual point of origin can't be determined.

[Gun Smoke]

Whether you hinge your argument on the green zone or the hit, it doesn't matter. Your argument starts with Pelosi and George Soros getting together with the Iranians and finishes with the administration blundering into war. Again, genius. That also shows how little you think of the decision-making capabilities of the Trump Administration. Luckily for them they're not nearly as dumb as you think they are.

Wow, look who's calling the kettle black (if you know what that means).

You sure do get upset when someone speaks out against your democrats or gives Trump credit.

[togor]

Maybe the Iranians are using up their old missiles first.

[lyman]

Maybe the Iranians are using up their old missiles first.

well, if they store them like the ammo that was released many years ago from the mid east, it is a wonder that they got off the ground,

[Roadkingtrax]

Maybe the Iranians are using up their old missiles first.

Ask the passengers on Flight 752 out of Tehran this morning.

[m1ashooter]

Well this sure started down hill very quickly. My friends and I are being very cautious.

[Art]

I wonder if these are the old scud missiles like Iraq use to fire at Israel? I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end but they are basically large fireworks with not much of a guidance system.

The Scud is imprecise by current standards but it's definitely accurate enough to hit Al Asaad Air Base which is the size of a small town. They didn't have any problem with accuracy when they hit that Saudi oil refinery with missiles a bit ago.

Togor: If you don't plan on actually hitting anything you'd absolutely use up the old ones first. Apparently four of the 16 odd launched malfunctioned after launch which would tend to indicate you could well be right.

[oscars]

I think that Art is into something about Iran's missile "barrage". Couple his thoughts with Tom Friedman's article in the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/o...soleimani.html) and Soleiman's supposed brilliance comes into question. Why did he fly into Baghdad without some sort of cover. Apparently, he traveled throughout Iraq in plain sight and was incredibly stupid or was exhibiting supreme arrogance. If getting rid of him was so important, why was he not killed covertly. He was highly unpopular according to Friedman.

It does smack of more than a bit of dick swinging on Trump's part and does correlate nicely with impending impeachment.

[Mark in Ottawa]

I was just listening to an interesting comment on the Iranian action. it was suggested that what happened was a "magic show" i.e. Iran pulled off a trick in order to achieve two totally opposite objectives: 1) they had to retaliate and be seen by Iranians as having retaliated. 2) they had to not retaliate in order not to entice the US to beat them up. The trick that achieved both objectives was to shoot 22 missiles, all of which missed and did not damage to anyone. That allows both sides to argue that they won the engagement. In addition, the commentator pointed out that Khomeni was probably not really unhappy to see the general taken off the board since he was apparently the real power in Iran (he controlled the intelligence and security services and the army).