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  • Vern Humphrey
    Administrator - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 15875

    #16
    Originally posted by lyman
    re the gun control,

    since it is a hot topic in the National election and our issues here in Va,

    I was told that some of the Dems, if not all , felt like the time had come for Gun Control to work,

    as in the scales have tipped in their direction , and all the years of MSM posting stories etc have finally paid off,


    hopefully not
    Hopefully, having tipped their hand, people will begin to see what they really are, and they'll go down in flames.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11333

      #17
      Originally posted by togor
      Do you want them to address the mentally unstable buyer in background checks or drop background checks altogether?
      wow, having a tough time today?


      I would like them to address the reporting of Mental Illness and do something about it,

      if it were handled correctly, then the BG system would be even more worthwhile,


      however between feelgoodism, and hippaa , no one wants to touch the report/treat/diagnose mental illness for various reasons, so it goes unreported, and a few (seemingly not many, honestly, ) get thru

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #18
        Originally posted by lyman
        wow, having a tough time today?


        I would like them to address the reporting of Mental Illness and do something about it,

        if it were handled correctly, then the BG system would be even more worthwhile,


        however between feelgoodism, and hippaa , no one wants to touch the report/treat/diagnose mental illness for various reasons, so it goes unreported, and a few (seemingly not many, honestly, ) get thru
        Having a fine day after 4 straight cutting firewood. Thanks for asking.

        "Do something about it"...what kind of something? Mental illness is never going to be a bright line between OK and not-OK for certain activities.

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        • RED
          Very Senior Member - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11689

          #19
          All of the stoogies are brain fried anti-gun idiots. Since we have had the background checks, have gun crimes gone down, or have they gone up? They think a Federal Law can fix anything. What they are really trying to do is make so many laws, rules and regulations that anybody that breathes is doing something illegal. That way the anointed stooges can go around and imprison anyone they choose. Of course all those laws, rules, and regulations don't apply to them. If they were right, all we would have to do to make things like murder, and assault with a deadly weapon a crime. They think every sicko, psychotic, brain dead, meth head would then stop doing idiotic crazy things if was just against the law.

          This stuff won't stop until the schools start to teach kids right from wrong and put the family and the American Dream back in place. A start would be to put prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance back into the schools along with competition and the study of Western Civilization.

          Yep, we don't need another 30,000 - 50,000 gun laws.

          JMHO
          Last edited by RED; 01-22-2020, 09:19.

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          • rayg
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7444

            #20
            Originally posted by RED
            "This stuff won't stop until the schools start to teach kids right from wrong and put the family and the American Dream back in place. A start would be to put prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance back into the schools along with competition and the study of Western Civilization". Yep, we don't need another 30,000 - 50,000 gun laws.
            JMHO
            Ditto, Well said.......

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            • Gun Smoke
              Banned
              • Sep 2019
              • 1658

              #21
              What's the definition of mental illness? The democrats would include everyone if they had their say.

              Every new law opens the door for yet additional more laws.

              The 2nd amendment does not exclude those who have mental illness. That's where family members should step in and be responsible.

              Like always, regardless of what laws are passed, no matter how fitting they may seem at the time, they won't affect those who intend to commit crimes using a firearm, nor will they prevent someone from obtaining a gun or other weapon.

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              • Vern Humphrey
                Administrator - OFC
                • Aug 2009
                • 15875

                #22
                You don't understand. Gun Control is not about controlling or reducing crime and violence -- it's about controlling the citizenry.

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                • Gun Smoke
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 1658

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                  You don't understand. Gun Control is not about controlling or reducing crime and violence -- it's about controlling the citizenry.
                  Yep and the Republicans should start calling it that, "people control", "police state", "dictatorship", "communism", etc. I'm sure someone could come up with just the right term. After all the democrats came up with "global warming" er.. "global freezing?" er... I know: "climate change".

                  Gun control is the term used when handling the recoil of your weapon while firing. You control the gun, not the gun owner.

                  Assault rifle is a rifle that goes out and assaults people. I hate it when my rifles escape and go shooting at things.
                  Last edited by Gun Smoke; 01-22-2020, 10:28.

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #24
                    I have it!! "Gun control causes climate change."

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11333

                      #25
                      Originally posted by togor
                      Having a fine day after 4 straight cutting firewood. Thanks for asking.

                      "Do something about it"...what kind of something? Mental illness is never going to be a bright line between OK and not-OK for certain activities.
                      true,

                      however we have had in the past several instances where different agencies did not report Mental issues, and the bad guys were able to pass a background check and get a firearm (and unfortunately used it)

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #26
                        Originally posted by lyman
                        true,

                        however we have had in the past several instances where different agencies did not report Mental issues, and the bad guys were able to pass a background check and get a firearm (and unfortunately used it)
                        But the question is, did the mental illness cause the violence?

                        We have had many more cases where people have alerted police, who did nothing, mental illness or no mental illness. A good example would be Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. They had a website where they detailed making bombs -- and the police, despite several complaints, did nothing.

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                        • Gun Smoke
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 1658

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                          But the question is, did the mental illness cause the violence?

                          We have had many more cases where people have alerted police, who did nothing, mental illness or no mental illness. A good example would be Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. They had a website where they detailed making bombs -- and the police, despite several complaints, did nothing.
                          The reverse side of that is the proposed "red flag laws" where someone can report anyone else and the police may go to the other extreme and make arrest/confiscate weapons over a simple unproven phone call. I would think that if and when an innocent person is charged the caller will end up being the one arrested. This is clearly another ploy of the democrats to get guns confiscated.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11333

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                            But the question is, did the mental illness cause the violence?

                            We have had many more cases where people have alerted police, who did nothing, mental illness or no mental illness. A good example would be Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. They had a website where they detailed making bombs -- and the police, despite several complaints, did nothing.
                            true,

                            and I am sure there are, or may be instances in the future where reporting stuff mental or not is abused, (hello red flag,,,)

                            not a perfect world, maybe we should pass a law that it should be? [/sarcasm]

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                            • Vern Humphrey
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 15875

                              #29
                              Originally posted by lyman
                              true,

                              and I am sure there are, or may be instances in the future where reporting stuff mental or not is abused, (hello red flag,,,)

                              not a perfect world, maybe we should pass a law that it should be? [/sarcasm]
                              How's about we make murder, robbery, rape and so on illegal?

                              And enforce the bloomin' laws.

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                              • Roadkingtrax
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 7835

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                                The reverse side of that is the proposed "red flag laws" where someone can report anyone else and the police may go to the other extreme and make arrest/confiscate weapons over a simple unproven phone call. I would think that if and when an innocent person is charged the caller will end up being the one arrested. This is clearly another ploy of the democrats to get guns confiscated.
                                Big ol fat Democrat for you right here:

                                "Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'"

                                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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