Good mamagement practices in government

[Vern Humphrey]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-homelessness-czar-takes-aim-at-longstanding-policy/ar-BBZy9PH?li=BBnb7Kz

Robert Marbut, the head of the U.S. Interagency Council on Homelessness, the top federal body on the issue, blames the rise in homelessness in large part on a policy called “Housing First,” which was conceived in the 1990s in New York City and soon became best practice but whose definition has since become contested. It aims to get people a reliable home before focusing on services such as rehabilitation, treatment or finding a job.

He opposes offering support services only after a home has been provided and wants to tie services to housing vouchers or placement, he said. “We need services and housing together.”


Now let's start providing housing where the JOBS are, instead of trapping people in poverty.

[blackhawknj]

Back in 1977 Jimmy Carter visited the South Bronx, saw scenes of devastation that looked like Germany in 1945. When he asked why weren't we doing something to address this problem a New York State legislator responded:
"Why should we build decent housing for people who are going to tear it apart ?"

[Vern Humphrey]

Back in 1977 Jimmy Carter visited the South Bronx, saw scenes of devastation that looked like Germany in 1945. When he asked why weren't we doing something to address this problem a New York State legislator responded:
"Why should we build decent housing for people who are going to tear it apart ?"

Well, maybe if we built decent housing where there are JOBS, and gave people training so they could hold those jobs, instead of concentrating them all in one small area where there is no opportunity . . .

There is a move afoot in California (I don't know how serious it is) to build a whole city for the homeless -- 150,000 people. They don't seem to realize that we tried that before -- we called it "Cabrini Green."

[blackhawknj]

Who needs jobs when you have welfare, SSI, disability, WIC, food stamps, Section 8.......

[dryheat]

They're just fine right where they are.

[bruce]

Well, maybe if we built decent housing where there are JOBS, and gave people training so they could hold those jobs, instead of concentrating them all in one small area where there is no opportunity . . . Yes. But, not likely to ever happen. JMHO. Sincerely. bruce.

[Vern Humphrey]

Who needs jobs when you have welfare, SSI, disability, WIC, food stamps, Section 8.......

I believe it was Bill Bechtel, the token liberal on Fox who said, "You don't understand. Poverty programs aren't designed to END poverty, they're designed to make people more comfortable in their poverty."

In other words, trap them in poverty and dependence on government for generation after generation.

[lyman]

I believe it was Bill Bechtel, the token liberal on Fox who said, "You don't understand. Poverty programs aren't designed to END poverty, they're designed to make people more comfortable in their poverty."

In other words, trap them in poverty and dependence on government for generation after generation.

true,

when you have classes in churches and community centers, that are well attended, to teach you how to milk the system to get more benefits,

vs having classes on how to get a job or adult ed type stuff, that are sparsely attended,

poverty will continue

[Vern Humphrey]

true,

when you have classes in churches and community centers, that are well attended, to teach you how to milk the system to get more benefits,

vs having classes on how to get a job or adult ed type stuff, that are sparsely attended,

poverty will continue

I remember when liberals assured us that no woman would have a baby just to get a welfare check -- until it became so obvious that that's exactly what happens they were too embarrassed to say that any longer.

[lyman]

I remember when liberals assured us that no woman would have a baby just to get a welfare check -- until it became so obvious that that's exactly what happens they were too embarrassed to say that any longer.

not just having babies,

get a part time job, the cut back on your availability, and then file for partial unemployment (and get it,,,) because you have limited your hours you can work , (and not for health or taking care of dependents reasons,, just cause)

maximizing SNAP benefits, etc etc,

[Vern Humphrey]

not just having babies,

get a part time job, the cut back on your availability, and then file for partial unemployment (and get it,,,) because you have limited your hours you can work , (and not for health or taking care of dependents reasons,, just cause)

maximizing SNAP benefits, etc etc,

Oh, yeah. My wife was Assistant Director of Nursing at a nursing home, and all the Certified Nursing Assistants would quit just before they made enough to no longer qualify for the Earned Income Credit.

[S.A. Boggs]

true,

when you have classes in churches and community centers, that are well attended, to teach you how to milk the system to get more benefits,

vs having classes on how to get a job or adult ed type stuff, that are sparsely attended,

poverty will continue

"You said a mousefull!"
Sam

[blackhawknj]

I recall one board member said his wife was a teacher, she noted the teenage girls in her school were intimately acquainted with the welfare forms. Watch the video "Swipe Yo' EBT !" to find the eligibility requirements.