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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #16
    If I recall, unemployment was over 6-8% during Obama years and it is now about 3-1/2% under trump...

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    • Sandpebble
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2017
      • 2196

      #17
      Originally posted by rayg
      If I recall, unemployment was over 6-8% during Obama years and it is now about 3-1/2% under trump...
      Yes Ray... thats very true. But Obama did not create those numbers... he inherited them.

      Here in SW Florida we've been "enjoying" a building boom for over 5 years now.... "five" years . But of course Trump is totally responsible for that ...

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      • rayg
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 7444

        #18
        Obama was in a long enough time, (8 yrs) long enough to improve them but didn't as it stayed high the whole time he was in. And Trump started to knock down those numbers down in his very first year and continued doing so......

        By the way, those stats you provided are from 2020 and has nothing to do with your made up chart. That chart is in your mind, LOL
        Last edited by rayg; 02-08-2020, 02:39.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #19
          Originally posted by rayg
          Obama was in a long enough time, (8 yrs) long enough to improve them but didn't as it stayed high the whole time he was in. And Trump started to knock down those numbers down in his very first year and continued doing so......

          By the way, those stats you provided are from 2020 and has nothing to do with your made up chart. That chart is in your mind, LOL
          Ray the rest of the data is at the site, and not that hard to extract. Public data, freely available to the public. Sam is a College Man, remember? And by his own account, a darn good one. It shouldn't be hard.

          Or, he can look elsewhere on the web for the same chart.

          Added: Obama came in at a time when business was contracting across the board. Construction, manufacturing, retail, etc. Since then, business spending has gradually picked up. But all the data shows business trends sustaining under Trump that started in the previous administration. The right candidate can make the argument that this can continue beyond '45. There is nothing uniquely' 45-ish about it.
          Last edited by togor; 02-08-2020, 02:49.

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          • S.A. Boggs
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 8568

            #20
            Poor, Poor Barry and the "miracles" he created? Cash for klunkers that took low cost vehicles and destroyed them. Now low income people had less to choose from, Obamacare that "You can keep your Doctor!" and Nancy's "Let's vote for the darned thing and see what is inside it", giving Iran cash in the middle of the night to avoid prying eyes. The list goes on and on unfortunately.
            Sam

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            • Gun Smoke
              Banned
              • Sep 2019
              • 1658

              #21
              Originally posted by rayg
              Obama was in a long enough time, (8 yrs) long enough to improve them but didn't as it stayed high the whole time he was in. And Trump started to knock down those numbers down in his very first year and continued doing so......

              By the way, those stats you provided are from 2020 and has nothing to do with your made up chart. That chart is in your mind, LOL
              Obama did inherit a bad economy from RINO Bush but like you said he then had it for 8 years and made little improvement. What healing was done probably would have occurred on it's own even w/o a president.

              The only thing he did that came close to an accomplishment was his now famous line: "Bushes fault".

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #22
                Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                Obama did inherit a bad economy from RINO Bush but like you said he then had it for 8 years and made little improvement. What healing was done probably would have occurred on it's own even w/o a president.

                The only thing he did that came close to an accomplishment was his now famous line: "Bushes fault".
                ...made little improvement....

                Jobs and stock market say otherwise.

                I know, the feeling is what's important, not data, unless the data favors Trump. In this case the data says Trump kept the party rolling.
                Last edited by togor; 02-08-2020, 05:49.

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                • Gun Smoke
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 1658

                  #23
                  Originally posted by togor
                  In this case the data says Trump kept the party rolling.
                  NO. Trump got the economy rolling.

                  You can present all the graphs, charts and statistics you like. We all remember what it was like with obama's lawlessness 8 years in office.

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                  • rayg
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 7444

                    #24
                    If I recall Trump cancelled a lot of the programs that "O" put in place that dragged down the economy and jobs......

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                    • Gun Smoke
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 1658

                      #25
                      Originally posted by rayg
                      If I recall Trump cancelled a lot of the programs that "O" put in place that dragged down the economy and jobs......
                      He's cancelled most everything from the obama years. Period.

                      Now he is starting on clintons by getting rid of NAFTA.

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                      • Roadkingtrax
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 7835

                        #26
                        Originally posted by rayg
                        If I recall Trump cancelled a lot of the programs that "O" put in place that dragged down the economy and jobs......
                        Yes, like pesky clean water protections of ephermal water ways that provide water for municipalities in more arid areas of this country.

                        My mistake, those protections existed before Reagan.
                        "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                        • rayg
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 7444

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                          Yes, like pesky clean water protections of ephermal water ways that provide water for municipalities in more arid areas of this country.

                          My mistake, those protections existed before Reagan.
                          He turned the responsibility of that to the states the water ways on in, as it should be...

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                          • Roadkingtrax
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 7835

                            #28
                            Originally posted by rayg
                            He turned the responsibility of that to the states the water ways on in, as it should be...
                            They dont feed individual states in all cases. This was a boon for mining lobbyists, nothing more.

                            NIMBY.
                            Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 02-08-2020, 06:52.
                            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                            • Gun Smoke
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2019
                              • 1658

                              #29
                              Some people remind me of Michael Moore. They hate EVERY THING.

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                              • rayg
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 7444

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                                They dont feed individual states in all cases.
                                NIMBY.
                                Then a state that would not have any would not have to pay

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