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...that the American revolution was fought TO PROTECT SLAVERY! This of course is total crap. But it is another example of the attempt by the left to brainwash our kids with lies. Check it out:
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The link is worth a read. It's an exaggeration to say that liberals have made this particular point of view a staple of American history in all 50 states.
The Constitution certainly expressed a tension between allowing slavery and proscribing it. As was observed a few decades later, in the run-up to the Civil War, slavery was protected by the Constitution (as in, no Federal law should ban it) in those places where it was practiced, but those Constitutional protections did not extend to new territories.
It's an interesting question, what might have been the fate of slavery had the colonies remained part of the crown and subject to the laws of parliament. Perhaps there would have been exceptions for parts of the North American empire. But ultimately one would think American slavery would have ended sooner had there been no independence. -
If the 13 Colonies were still Crown Colonies the end of slavery would have come in 1833 when it was outlawed in the British Empire. No exceptions made. If the Brits didn't compromise with Jamaica or Trinidad they wouldn't have compromised with the North American Colonies. By the late 1820s the Anti Slavery Movement was one of the most powerful political forces in the U.K. and the reason the Confederate hope for an alliance with the Brits in the War Between the States was a vain one.
If the southern colonies had rebelled over Brit's abolition of slavery the chances of success would have been minimal at best.
It is true that the compromises in the Constitution protected Slavery; it is also true that The Declaration of Independence started a conversation on the morality of the institution of slavery that ultimately led to making slavery untenable in the United States, that is for sure. That "all men are created equal" was heady stuff. It's also why, after a series of slave revolts copies of the Declaration and The Bible were contraband for slaves in the south and laws were passed to prevent slaves from learning to read. The "1619 Project" is an intellectually dishonest vehicle to simplify the complex in a very destructive way.Last edited by Art; 02-09-2020, 03:59.Comment
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When students are taught by people who majored in Education in college and graduated with a C average, when parents used the schools as a day care center...Comment
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don't forget, they teach "sex ed" too.
how's that working out?? I'd say not so good when people claim there are 72 different genders.
BTW....how the he11 would you know if you are number 43 or 42 genderwise??Comment
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No matter what they do history does not change. Education for kids is the responsibility of parents and knowing what they teach your kids is a paramount issue.Comment
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Holocaust denialism on the right, particularly in Europe but also here, is a sad example of what happens when the living witnesses pass. Never mind that the people who dealt with it then understood the problem and bent over backwards to document what they saw. Hate does not die of old age.Last edited by togor; 02-13-2020, 07:37.Comment
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never saw Holocaust denial as a left or right thing,
I do thing those that deny it are a bit delusional,
one of my poly sci electives in college was on Genocide,
man has done a lot of nasty things due to the belief that one side/belief is better than the other,
and continues to do soComment
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But by making "Holocaust Denial" a crime and imprisoning these people, we give credence to their delusions. Let them talk and people will see their delusions.
As an aside there are more "Holocaust Deniers" then you would think -- there are people who say only Jews were killed during the Holocaust, and put the death toll at only six million. They deny the other six million deaths.
And of course no one talks of the eleven million Chinese who were put to death by the Japanese -- mention that and someone will heatedly deny they're part of the Holocaust, probably because they weren't White.Comment
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There are those today who place the Nazis elsewhere than the right on the spectrum. But for those who lived in those times,
Actually dealt with the Nazis and their aftermath,
There was no doubt where they belong. The Communists were on the left, the Nazis on the right.
Similar in that both were totalitarian states, but whereas the communists put private property in the hands of the state, the Nazis encouraged private business with heavy state direction.
Krupp, Opel, Ford, Rheinmetall, Focke Wulf, Messerschmidt, Daimler-Benz, the list goes on. None of them are "Factory #22" as in the Communist system.
The Communists liberated a great many of those camps, and so had no reason to dispute what the Nazis had done.
That there is this left/right confusion about the Nazis these days is just another sign of the problem.
Added: Did the totalitarian states on the left also kill people by the score? Absolutely.
Ukraine in the 1930s for one example. The Great Leap Forward may well be the biggest of the last century. The Khmer Rouge.
Extremism is the enemy. The direction is less important. If someone's politics are such that they are determined not to be outflanked on the right (or the left), then they are part of the problem.Last edited by togor; 02-13-2020, 09:41.Comment
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you are preaching w/o reading what I said,
left or right makes no difference, as far as denial,
what the nazi's, Turks, Russians, Chinese, japanese , Spaniards and even US did (to the native americans) to other people is well documented, but like Vern mentioned, rarely mentioned (may not fit the narative,,, so to speak)
there are folks on both sides of whatever aisle that will deny it as long as they still are breathing,Comment
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Lyman,
Agree that genocide spans the spectrum.
I see Holocaust denialism specifically as motivated by a desire to portray Nazis as less odious, which to me puts it on the right.Comment
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BS... Nobody under 30 years of age ever heard of WWII. College students at the University of Arkansas were quizzed by local news channel and they had never heard that President John F. Kennedy had been assassinated. They had never heard of Joe Stalin, or Mao Zedong. Nor had had they ever heard of Charles de Gaulle or Winston Churchill.
But none of them had ever been "left behind."Comment
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