Democratic male reproduction law proposed

[rayg]

Contraception for women who don't want to get pregnant.

A good choice.....if used...

[Vern Humphrey]

A bad understanding of biology makes for bad law. Fertilized embryos might become people, or just miscarry. Calling embryos people invites womb police to investigate every miscarriage as a homicide.

That's a form of processed meat (bologna). There's no need for any of that hysteria. Just recognize that abortion is murder.

[Dolt]

Like it or not, the premeditated killing of a perfectly innocent human being is called murder. We all have a stake in preventing and punishing murder.

Pro abortionists call themselves "Pro-choice". But they need to keep in mind that they have several choices before resorting to murdering a baby. They have they CHOICE not to have sex, they have the CHOICE to use contraception if they have sex. They have the CHOICE to give their unwanted baby human being up for adoption if they don't want it. They have plenty of choices other than murder. I always figured a woman who would murder her baby would have been a lousy mother anyway.

[S.A. Boggs]

That's a form of processed meat (bologna). There's no need for any of that hysteria. Just recognize that abortion is murder.

Weren't another brand of National Socialist hung after World War Two for murdering children under the law of their defeated country? Under there country's law it was legal to murder babies. What is the difference then and now???
Sam

[jdmcgrath]

"Just recognize that abortion is murder".

Having said that, it follows that an illegal termination of a pregnancy must be prosecuted as murder, including all accomplices. Now pregnancy is a matter for state supervision and possibly a criminal matter. The problem with policy from dogma is that the cure is worse than the disease.

[S.A. Boggs]

"Just recognize that abortion is murder".

Having said that, it follows that an illegal termination of a pregnancy must be prosecuted as murder, including all accomplices. Now pregnancy is a matter for state supervision and possibly a criminal matter. The problem with policy from dogma is that the cure is worse than the disease.

Elaboration.
Sam

[jdmcgrath]

Someone who sees a positive test after one missed period in the same light as a belly 8 months ripe has no business writing these laws. Reducing abortions is a worthy goal but not through bad biology or criminalizing adverse pregnancy outcomes or just flat out ignoring the woman's constitutional rights. Last thing a woman with a miscarriage needs is a cop asking her what foods she ate or for a vial of her blood. Once such laws are written justice will be both blind and dumb which is the last thing anyone but a true dogmatic should want.

[lyman]

Someone who sees a positive test after one missed period in the same light as a belly 8 months ripe has no business writing these laws. Reducing abortions is a worthy goal but not through bad biology or criminalizing adverse pregnancy outcomes or just flat out ignoring the woman's constitutional rights. Last thing a woman with a miscarriage needs is a cop asking her what foods she ate or for a vial of her blood. Once such laws are written justice will be both blind and dumb which is the last thing anyone but a true dogmatic should want.

not to mention the back alley abortions etc etc,



abortion has left the barn, left the corral, gone across the pasture and is well into the wind several counties over, ,but folks still think they can put that horse back in the stall ,,,



fact is , it is more polarizing than even gun control,

I doubt there will ever be a consensus on when life starts, and when it is allowed to terminate (abort) it,

[Vern Humphrey]

Pro abortionists call themselves "Pro-choice". But they need to keep in mind that they have several choices before resorting to murdering a baby. They have they CHOICE not to have sex, they have the CHOICE to use contraception if they have sex. They have the CHOICE to give their unwanted baby human being up for adoption if they don't want it. They have plenty of choices other than murder. I always figured a woman who would murder her baby would have been a lousy mother anyway.

I had a person say to me, "We're pro-choice. You must be anti-choice."

I replied, "We're pro-life. You must be anti-life."

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Someone who sees a positive test after one missed period in the same light as a belly 8 months ripe has no business writing these laws. Reducing abortions is a worthy goal but not through bad biology or criminalizing adverse pregnancy outcomes or just flat out ignoring the woman's constitutional rights. Last thing a woman with a miscarriage needs is a cop asking her what foods she ate or for a vial of her blood. Once such laws are written justice will be both blind and dumb which is the last thing anyone but a true dogmatic should want.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! If we don't have abortion on demand, all our cops will be asking women with a miscarriages what foods they ate!! It'll happen, I tell you, it'll happen!

[Roadkingtrax]

Vern, he's exactly right. Religious dogma has clouded your understanding of law.

[blackhawknj]

There is no "man's right to choose", and the rest of us have to pick up the tab for welfare, schools, prisons, etc. And of course the abortion rate in this country is as high as it is because the group most committed to "reproductive freedom for women " is-men.
And if you want to see unwanted and loved children, visit the financial aid office of a college or university, when the divorced children are asked where are the financial disclosure form from their fathers, their reply is usually:
"My parents divorced when I was -- years old and we never heard from him again."

[Vern Humphrey]

There is no "man's right to choose", and the rest of us have to pick up the tab for welfare, schools, prisons, etc. And of course the abortion rate in this country is as high as it is because the group most committed to "reproductive freedom for women " is-men.
And if you want to see unwanted and loved children, visit the financial aid office of a college or university, when the divorced children are asked where are the financial disclosure form from their fathers, their reply is usually:
"My parents divorced when I was -- years old and we never heard from him again."

The abandonment of a child by its father is, of course, the male equivalent of an abortion -- and is nearly as reprehensible as murder

[S.A. Boggs]

There is no "man's right to choose", and the rest of us have to pick up the tab for welfare, schools, prisons, etc. And of course the abortion rate in this country is as high as it is because the group most committed to "reproductive freedom for women " is-men.
And if you want to see unwanted and loved children, visit the financial aid office of a college or university, when the divorced children are asked where are the financial disclosure form from their fathers, their reply is usually:
"My parents divorced when I was -- years old and we never heard from him again."

I dealt with too many adults who had a crying child inside them still in need of many things. I have also seen children who's mother abused ethanol or other drugs, these children had no chance yet have their life to live. If a woman chooses to kill the child shouldn't the father have some say? Would it be just as "right" if the mother wanted to keep the child yet the father demanded the child's death?
Which one of you will vote for life or death of a child?
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

I dealt with too many adults who had a crying child inside them still in need of many things. I have also seen children who's mother abused ethanol or other drugs, these children had no chance yet have their life to live. If a woman chooses to kill the child shouldn't the father have some say? Would it be just as "right" if the mother wanted to keep the child yet the father demanded the child's death?
Which one of you will vote for life or death of a child?
Sam

For that matter, what if the mother wanted to kill the father, or vice-versa? What about a teenager -- those who have raised teenagers will understand what I mean.

[RED]

For that matter, what if the mother wanted to kill the father, or vice-versa? What about a teenager -- those who have raised teenagers will understand what I mean.

I'm tired of hearing from people that are for unlimited immigration because Americans aren't having enough babies. When at the same time they support and encourage American women to have 650,000 abortions per year.