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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Solved: What killed the crew of the H.L. Hunley ...

    Excellent article and pics. 1st class research by this Lady.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-L-Hunley.html
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    Water.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #3
      I don't know anybody knowledgeable about the Hunley who DOESN'T think she wasn't killed by her own torpedo.

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      • dogtag
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 14985

        #4
        Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
        I don't know anybody knowledgeable about the Hunley who DOESN'T think she wasn't killed by her own torpedo.
        That was obvious but was not the question. What actually killed them was.
        Someone killed by a bullet is also obvious, but what actually caused death ?
        Heart, kidney, liver, blood loss, shock ?
        Read the article - all of it.

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #5
          Pretty sure it was water.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            The shock wave from 135 lbs of black powder going off 16 feet away, carried by water, would have been considerable. Maybe they should have used a longer pole.

            Seriously though, the men must have known it was a one way trip, given the first two outcomes. Incredibly brave.

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11269

              #7
              interesting article, Thanks for posting it DT,


              I was there (Charleston) for the funeral procession, that was a sight to see

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              • blackhawknj
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 3754

                #8
                First generation technology, inadequate R&D. When William B. Cushing and his crew sank the Albemarle, they used a 14 foot spar torpedo. The explosion threw Cushing and his crew off their steam launch into the water, giving them a chance to escape.

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                • Vern Humphrey
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 15875

                  #9
                  Originally the plan was to release a torpedo on the far side of the ship, then back off, pulling a lanyard to detonate it. That was scrapped for a spar torpedo.

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                  • blackhawknj
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 3754

                    #10
                    When Ezra Lee set off in the Turtle to sink HMS Eagle David Bushnell had designed a clockwork fuse mechanism for the powder charge.

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                    • Vern Humphrey
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 15875

                      #11
                      Originally posted by blackhawknj
                      When Ezra Lee set off in the Turtle to sink HMS Eagle David Bushnell had designed a clockwork fuse mechanism for the powder charge.
                      Yep -- unfortunately, the copper bottoms of the British ships prevented attaching it.

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                      • jjrothWA
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1148

                        #12
                        well, actually it was a wooden screw, that broke on contact. had they used a simple bayonet, then Lord Admiral Howe, would have benn "sleeping with the fishes"!
                        Last edited by jjrothWA; 02-23-2020, 04:38. Reason: spelling

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                        • blackhawknj
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3754

                          #13
                          I read that the currents and the tide, the rocking of the ship, kept Ezra Lee from keeping the drill stable against the hull. Which I can understand. I drilled an aluminum piece may 1/4" thick last week, with an electric drill, plenty of oil and good light, it still took me at least 10 minutes.

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                          • Vern Humphrey
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 15875

                            #14
                            Originally posted by blackhawknj
                            I read that the currents and the tide, the rocking of the ship, kept Ezra Lee from keeping the drill stable against the hull. Which I can understand. I drilled an aluminum piece may 1/4" thick last week, with an electric drill, plenty of oil and good light, it still took me at least 10 minutes.
                            Given the difficulties -- not least that British warships were copper-bottomed -- it was a non-starter.

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                            • Roadkingtrax
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 7835

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                              Given the difficulties -- not least that British warships were copper-bottomed -- it was a non-starter.
                              Copper sheathing is less than a millimeter thickness, and is for wood boring organisms. The turtle's device was designed to penetrate copper, it was the iron plate at the rudder that was the problem.
                              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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