Is it 1929?

[dryheat]

Here's our chance to get a no nonsense program to put all the homeless to work. The homeless might be pretty poor workers but there's going to be a lot of young un-emloyed.

[Major Tom]

With the present welfare system, those people will never work!

[togor]

Dryheat, I think you mean 1933. Hoover didn't have many ideas in '29.

The people were more used to manual labor back then, and the idea that food came from work. These days food production is automated to the extent that food-work connection for most is pretty abstract. And even if they found 1,000 gringos up for pick & shovel work, not a lot of those projects around. Or Grand Coulee dam work.

Garand thumb to me is a perfect example of how attitudes about what is acceptable in machines have changed. Back then: be careful closing the bolt or you'll get bit. Now: this rifle design is unacceptable because it might bite the thumb of the operator.

[shadycon]

The only thing most young people know how to work is a keyboard on a smart phone!

[Roadkingtrax]

The only thing most young people know how to work is a keyboard on a smart phone!

Telecommunicating is keeping half of people still employed working. Not such a bad thing right now.

[dryheat]

Coming up on the anniversary- On April 8, 1935, Congress approved the Emergency Relief Appropriation Act of 1935, the work relief bill that funded the Works Progress Administration (WPA).
One branch of the WPA-
The WPA Federal Theatre Project (FTP) employed out-of-work actors, musicians, vaudevillians, and theater technicians in performances of classical and modern plays, such as Orson Welles’ production of Macbeth. The collection also includes production notebooks, playbills, posters, photographs, and stage and costume designs for three plays performed by the Federal Theatre acting units.

On the other hand the CCC stressed-
An implicit goal of the CCC was to restore morale in an era of 25% unemployment for all men and much higher rates for poorly educated teenagers. Jeffrey Suzik argues in "'Building Better Men': The CCC Boy and the Changing Social Ideal of Manliness" that the CCC provided work, pay, and an ideology of robust outdoor manhood to counter the Depression's effeminacy, as well as cash to help the family budget. Through a regime of heavy manual labor, civic and political education, and an all-male living and working environment, the CCC tried to build "better men" who would be economically independent and not effete. By 1939 there was a shift from the athletic manual worker to the highly trained citizen soldier ready for the war.[

Effete here doesn't necesarily mean effeminate, but over educated, lacking in wholesome vigor; degenerate; decadent: an effete, overrefined society. exhausted of vigor or energy; worn out: an effete political force. unable to produce, sterile

[Art]

Dryheat, I think you mean 1933. Hoover didn't have many ideas in '29.

Hoover actually gets a bit of a bad rap on this. While he is considered to have been too economically conservative now, he did have policies enacted that in some cases would be applauded by the left today. They included, among other things, substantially high tax increases on high earners, asking the Federal Reserve to increase credit and transferring food surpluses to the states and instituting a public works program. These policies were substantially continued (and often greatly expanded on) by his successor. His ability to increase the currency supply, (the depressed currency was in need of a cash influx) was hampered by specie money based on gold. Roosevelt was able to increase the amount of currency by taking the country off the gold standard but was still somewhat limiited because currency was still largely backed by silver.

It should be remembered that when he was placed in charge of the European relief effort after WW I Hoover's efforts are credited with keeping hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people from starving, and he did this by using private charitable sources which undoubtedly influenced his actions after the crash of '29.

[Bt Doctur]

Has anybody figured out what going to happen to the tent people ?

[Vern Humphrey]

Has anybody figured out what going to happen to the tent people ?

I expect they will be hard hit.

[barretcreek]

You could clear out every major city's homeless encampment by instituting a CCC type of program to cut down and remove all the beetle kill in the National Forests in the Rockies.
The drug addicted mentally ill parasites a) wouldn't do it b) couldn't do it safely c) would have a bunch of lawyers shutting it down and d) the residents in the small towns of the Intermountain West would not allow them. Give them all the drugs they want and let 'em stay in the Blue Zones.

[Vern Humphrey]

You could clear out every major city's homeless encampment by instituting a CCC type of program to cut down and remove all the beetle kill in the National Forests in the Rockies.
The drug addicted mentally ill parasites a) wouldn't do it b) couldn't do it safely c) would have a bunch of lawyers shutting it down and d) the residents in the small towns of the Intermountain West would not allow them. Give them all the drugs they want and let 'em stay in the Blue Zones.

I think that's a pretty accurate assessment -- except that the disease will run rampant through those tent camps and spread from there.

[S.A. Boggs]

These tent "cities" and poverty high rises are going to be hit hard with a high death rate. These will be look upon as "low value" and acted accordingly upon. One has to remember is that poverty is a national industry that is fueled by $$$ poured into it. Lawyers, mental health, housing and more make money off of these government programs, I know I saw it and was aggrieved by this.
Sam

[Vern Humphrey]

These tent "cities" and poverty high rises are going to be hit hard with a high death rate. These will be look upon as "low value" and acted accordingly upon. One has to remember is that poverty is a national industry that is fueled by $$$ poured into it. Lawyers, mental health, housing and more make money off of these government programs, I know I saw it and was aggrieved by this.
Sam

You're right -- it's as if they were deliberately designed to spread disease. Why couldn't we have adopted programs to get people OUT of poverty?

Yeah, I know -- the lawyers and bureaucrats wouldn't have made money off that.

[dryheat]

They've got the whole Mohave desert where they could set up homeless refugee camps.

[Vern Humphrey]

They've got the whole Mohave desert where they could set up homeless refugee camps.

But think how far they'd have to truck in dumpsters for them to forage in.