People Say This Looks Like A Still From a Zombie Movie

[togor]

Don't know that I would go that far, but it is visually striking.



From Ohio, which has done a commendable job of keeping this first wave down, thereby buying more time for many of its citizens. There are worse things that could have happened, but these people don't seem to understand that?

[Roadkingtrax]

I've seen this movie before.

"Night of the Living White Privilege"

[Carbine64]

No they are tired of the mess we are living in.We have been told we could have 20,000 plus dead at this time under 400.Some of the state county's have zero deaths and only a couple sick.Once again we have that shotgun effect to cover the full state,let the county's decide what to close.If there are hot spots in the state have that county or county's decide what is open or closed.We have been closed up for a month for schools and university's and more.By May 1st it will be a month for most business being closed.They are looking at 25% of small company's closing for good.in the next 30 days.This is not White Privilege but the fear that their live's are being manipulated by the government.

[RED]

Don't know that I would go that far, but it is visually striking.



From Ohio, which has done a commendable job of keeping this first wave down, thereby buying more time for many of its citizens. There are worse things that could have happened, but these people don't seem to understand that?

Maybe not so much. Here is the entire quote and it fully explains togor's lies.

https://books.google.com/books?id=4Dwz91CWjnYC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=...that+most+dangerous+of+rulers,+a+weak+autocrat....+-+Barbara+W.+Tuchman&source=bl&ots=kMW-RzoViv&sig=ACfU3U1WJuJpVsRBTo2rotcjfG4-G_0_AQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjr2Mn5x_DoAhXCmq0KHekGBuIQ6AEwAHoECA8QKQ#v=onepage&q=...that%20most%20dangerous%20of%20rulers%2C%20a%20weak%20autocrat....%20-%20Barbara%20W.%20Tuchman&f=false

[Carbine64]

The news is reporting that the State of Ohio will be deciding what will happen to our state over the weekend.I only hope the leaders are hearing from the masses that its time to open up the state.The schools and university's might as will stay closed.due to their schedules are just about over or very close to the end.

[togor]

No they are tired of the mess we are living in.We have been told we could have 20,000 plus dead at this time under 400.Some of the state county's have zero deaths and only a couple sick.Once again we have that shotgun effect to cover the full state,let the county's decide what to close.If there are hot spots in the state have that county or county's decide what is open or closed.We have been closed up for a month for schools and university's and more.By May 1st it will be a month for most business being closed.They are looking at 25% of small company's closing for good.in the next 30 days.This is not White Privilege but the fear that their live's are being manipulated by the government.

It's a tough situation no doubt. But living in the mess is still living. We've seen what happens on ships, or senior centers, when distancing cannot be or isn't observed. This thing is a killer. In NYC, the hard stat is that 80% of the people who get on ventilators don't come of them...alive. In an earlier era, communities might have been more self-supporting, able to ride things out as a group instead of it being everyone for themselves.

What was "supposed" to happen is that after getting through the first wave, national testing would be online to allow ROK-style intensive testing around the edges of the outbreak, to keep pressure on it. Testing, Tracing, Treatment. There are some in DC who are trying to make this happen, but it is taking longer than what people would like. The thing is, if restrictions are relaxed now, before that testing regime is in place, it will just be another wave. Remember, over 99% of the people haven't had it so all that kindling is still ready to burn.

No easy solution, unfortunately. Maybe we get lucky and a pill will come along that reduces the mortality by 100X, or a shot or IV. But even then you have to have enough enough doses and/or enough beds.

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Yes Red, re-reading the book now. My personal copy. Same woman who wrote the superb The Guns of August. The quote was in reference to Czar Nicholas II--one of history's outstanding rulers by universal acclaim. Want to start a book club?

[Carbine64]

Let the people to decide to be open.Close the senior centers,if you have health problems stay home.Some are saying 22 months of this being closed what could be left of America.Those statements are coming out from Obama's Architect for his health insurance.If we could start mass testing today for everyone I think we will find that a large percent of the American's have had this virus.

[S.A. Boggs]

In Ohio, outside of the NSD controlled cities, there have not been many issues. Living rural has many benefits as we are usually left to our own.
Sam

[togor]

Let the people to decide to be open.Close the senior centers,if you have health problems stay home.Some are saying 22 months of this being closed what could be left of America.Those statements are coming out from Obama's Architect for his health insurance.If we could start mass testing today for everyone I think we will find that a large percent of the American's have had this virus.

22 solid months closed? Nobody has said that to my knowledge.

What they have said is periods of opening and closing as necessary, hopefully with successive waves less severe, as people develop immunity (if that is confirmed, all depending on how the virus mutates).

If people want to decide for themselves to get infected, then recover or die at home without infecting anyone else, well that's one thing. But if they just want to act from impulse and let others deal with the fallout, that is another. Even in our country's halcyon days of democracy, public health rules were understood to be a necessity.

Interesting tidbit: the current measles vaccine, from the 1950's, still works. The reason is that the vaccine targets that part of the virus that has to work a certain way in order for it to infect people. Measles mutations happen all of the time, but not in the area targeted by the vaccine.

Added: my wife and I took an outing that put us in a crowded public area on February 29. Since then, decreasing contact with people, and since mid-March, in a bubble of just us and the kids, with forays for shopping. In March I had a little bit of a cough thing but no fever and not in the lungs. She felt a little heavy in her breathing and again no fever. Neither of us would say we were sick, just usual late-winter stuff. If they tested us and say "lo, you guys had it" that would be awesome, but right now I doubt it. Just late season crud. But tests not widely available so assumption is we're as susceptible as everyone else right now.

[togor]

In Ohio, outside of the NSD controlled cities, there have not been many issues. Living rural has many benefits as we are usually left to our own.
Sam

Your governor was looking out for you in a way that SD's was not. The infection rate per capita in SD is twice that of Ohio. If you find yourself on I-90 in SD anytime soon, stay out of the rest areas and gas station bathrooms (for more than the usual reasons in SD).

Oh and speaking of I-90, and bathrooms, I have to say that Ohio does a far better job on the turnpike of having clean bathrooms than does Indiana. In Indiana the McDonald's employees are supposed to do it and as you might expect, it's a lousy job.

[Carbine64]

Rest Areas in Ohio are clean today,when I was a kid most were a drop toilets.The smell was unreal.I think I was in high school the State Patrol responded to a call about a man in the outhouse at the rest area.He dropped down the hole in the men's side and was now looking up into the women's side.The trooper called for the fire department and paramedics for rescue,after getting him out of the hole they had to hose him down before taking him to the hospital.The joy of living in farm country.

[Vern Humphrey]

Rest Areas in Ohio are clean today,when I was a kid most were a drop toilets.The smell was unreal.I think I was in high school the State Patrol responded to a call about a man in the outhouse at the rest area.He dropped down the hole in the men's side and was now looking up into the women's side.The trooper called for the fire department and paramedics for rescue,after getting him out of the hole they had to hose him down before taking him to the hospital.The joy of living in farm country.

When I was small, my grandmother raised chickens. She'd open the chicken yard gate every morning to let the chickens out to range. Her yard was always full of chickens wandering around, pecking at bugs and so on.

Now little boys and chickens are a volatile combination. Do you know what little boys can do with chickens? You can CHASE them! We were always hot and sweaty and out of breath from chasing chickens -- we should have grown up to be Olympic marathon runners!

One day my brother, John, caught a chicken! That chicken was bigger than he was -- it took both of us to get it under control. Now step back, take a breath and think about this -- we had achieved a LIFETIME'S ambition! We had been chasing chickens as long as we remembered, and now we had CAUGHT one!

What can you do with a chicken when you catch it? There's really only one thing -- you take it in the outhouse and put if down the hole!

The chicken didn't like being down the hole -- it kept jumping up, it's head suddenly appearing above the level of the seat. We watched in fascination. Up, down, up down! But we noticed after a while it wasn't coming up so high. Finally it couldn't get up high enough to see over the seat and it gave up. It was down in the hole muttering and cussing.

Well, that wasn't very interesting, so we left to find something else to do. In a little while, our grandfather came out the back door, unbuckling his belt and headed for the outhouse.

We thought about telling him, "There's a chicken down the hole." But we realized he'd probably want to know how the chicken GOT down the hole and we didn't want to have that conversation. And there are some things a man needs to find out for himself.

He went in, closed the door, and in a few seconds there was hollering and yelling, and the door burst open. He came flying out, with his pants around his ankles, fell down, got up, and fell down again. Grandma came out, grabbed him and dragged him into the house.

In a few minutes, they both came out. His pants were up and buckled and he had a shotgun. She had a flashlight. They snuck up on the outhouse, counted to three, ripped the door open and pointed both the shotgun and the flashlight down the hole.

She made him get the chicken out of the hole, while she cut a switch about three feet long and went looking for little boys. But she didn't find any.

That night at supper there was a very unpleasant conversation, "Chickens? No, Ma'am. We don't even know what a chicken looks like. John? Have you ever seen a chicken?"

Grandpa bought another flashlight and kept it in the outhouse -- and he never sat down on that seat again without first shining the light down the hole.

And he never took his eyes off us. We'd be playing and feel eyes on the backs of our necks. We'd turn our heads, and he'd be watching us out of the corner of his eye.

He was a suspicious old man!

[Carbine64]

Sitting here crying due to reading this,laughing so hard.Thanks this what we need at this time.

[rayg]

Great story.....

[kj47]

That was a good story!