Trump's accomplishments so far

[Roadkingtrax]

Gunsmoke is suffering from TDS.

[rayg]

Crickets, schmickets. Haven't heard that term for years, ha, ha,


Again what positive for the country have the Dems accomplished during their time since they won, except the impeachment try and working to defeat every thing Trump did or was was trying to do... Are you so brain washed just to hate Trump only because he is not a career politician and ran as a Republican. Had he ran as a Dem you would have loved him! Do you really believe that anything Republican is bad....It's the divided politics that has ruined this country..If Trump would switch and run as a Dem I would vote for him. You should pick the best person, The two opposing Political parties are only holding the country back.....I know it's pie in the sky. , but it sure would be nice for the two political parties to work together and stop dividing the country. And that also goes for some of the posters on here.. .......

[togor]

Not only were they NOT passed by Pelosi. She tried to block most everything he has passed.

With this post you are doubling down on a basic ignorance of how laws are passed in this country. I could send you a link but you won't read it. As you said, you don't need to do research, or have facts, to know what you know. Thank goodness you can't vote in our elections because even (especially!) the Conservatives understand the down side risks of voters lacking even a rudimentary understanding of government.

[togor]

Well Ray,

Like it or not, the other party got more votes, and took the House.

What would you suggest as a response? Disenfranchise half the country and rule with a one party minority state? Is that really better?

Trump ran on "The Art of the Deal", dealmaker-in-chief. So what's wrong with some old fashioned horse-trading to get to win-win? Your complaint is that the GOP isn't getting everything they want? Well the system is designed to prevent that, yes? Remember that from civics?

One thing I've noticed about the GOP, why I can't support them currently, is their inward turn. Instead of competing for voters, they're trying to shrink the pool. I believe in competition, within limits (so not full on Darwinian), as a valuable tonic, a good into itself. Tired of losing elections? Figure out a way to broaden your appeal. To me, it's that simple.

I also point out that the best combination for reducing the deficit, in recent decades, is a Democratic president and Republican Congress. That is proven beyond any doubt since 1980.

[rayg]

Well Ray,

T....Like it or not, the other party got more votes, and took the House.

R.... and look what the house has accomplished so far...

T...What would you suggest as a response? Disenfranchise half the country and rule with a one party minority state? Is that really better?

R.. never said that!

T..Trump ran on "The Art of the Deal", dealmaker-in-chief. So what'sCV Your complaint is that the GOP isn't getting everything they want? Well the system is designed to prevent that, yes? Remember that from civics?

R.. there you go again, Never implied that..

T.. One thing I've noticed about the GOP, why I can't support them currently, is their inward turn. Instead of competing for voters, they're trying to shrink the pool. I believe in competition, within limits (so not full on Darwinian), as a valuable tonic, a good into itself.

R.. Please explain that

T... Tired of losing elections? Figure out a way to broaden your appeal. To me, it's that simple.

R.. Nothing is ever that simple with you..so please explain that. .

T....I also point out that the best combination for reducing the deficit, in recent decades, is a Democratic president and Republican Congress. That is proven beyond any doubt since 1980.

R..That's your opinion and not every one's apparently! As the last election demonstrated....

[togor]

Ray...on the deficit?

Hands down, D-POTUS, R-Congress gives the lowest deficits since 1980. Yes there are factors like the great recession but also a simple structural reason--

Republicans in Congress rediscover their small government roots only when a Democrat is in charge of the executive branch. All R government's drive up the deficit by reducing tax revenues. Deficits under Trump are a shared venture but they don't bother him.

Again, I believe in fair competition between the parties, within limits. The problem these days is the extremists at both ends who act as gatekeepers in the primaries. At some level, the voters are getting the government they deserve.

[rayg]

Again, I believe in fair competition between the parties, within limits. The problem these days is the extremists at both ends who act as gatekeepers in the primaries. At some level, the voters are getting the government they deserve.

Very True...And would you consider yourself to be an extremist.. just kidding...Lol

[shadycon]

To make a long story short; rayg, did you proof read your post? It wouldn't have been so long if it didn't have all the duplication's.

[rayg]

I did proof it and thought I caught all the duplication's. It was a bear trying to put all three totally separate and different posts from the guy together...Were are are the duplicates ?, I can' find them..My eyes went batty looking for them..Sorry

[Gun Smoke]

The answer is still being avoided.

What have the democrats accomplished in the past 3 1/2 years?

[togor]

Very True...And would you consider yourself to be an extremist.. just kidding...Lol

I'm someone who gets shot at from both sides.

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The answer is still being avoided.

What have the democrats accomplished in the past 3 1/2 years?

The deficit would be even higher if not for Pelosi.

USCMA provisions for worker wages were improved thanks to the Democrats.

I shouldn't bother with you because you don't even understand the basics of the US government, but hey I'm a thoughtful and courteous guy. Have a nice day. Don't read too much.

[rayg]

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The deficit would be even higher if not for Pelosi.

I guess I'm confused, didn't she just add a lot of extra cost to the budget to cover the recovery and Stimulus plans?

[togor]

[QUOTE=rayg;581521]

The deficit would be even higher if not for Pelosi.

I guess I'm confused, didn't she just add a lot of extra cost to the budget to cover the recovery and Stimulus plans?

Yes she did. But before the Covid SHTF it was understood that another GOP handout to the rich via the tax code was not in the cards in the House.

And certainly McConnell and Trump share in the current deficit busters do they not?

And call me a nature boy but the pro-pollution lobby has found tougher sledding since the change in the house. Nonetheless they get a lot just working the administration.

[Gun Smoke]

I'm someone who gets shot at from both sides.

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The deficit would be even higher if not for Pelosi.

USCMA provisions for worker wages were improved thanks to the Democrats.

I shouldn't bother with you because you don't even understand the basics of the US government, but hey I'm a thoughtful and courteous guy. Have a nice day. Don't read too much.

So I take it as always, you can't answer a simple question where it involves any accomplishment of the democrats except to further their own goals and not that of the nation.

[togor]

Oh and if the Post Office goes under... anyone think it's because of the Democrats? No. It will be because of one of the knucklehead Senators from Kentucky.