Oh Canada.

[Tuna]

But then there are countries that the general population have no firearms like China. BUT they are have knifes and their versions of nut jobs use those knifes to kill. As many as 25 at a time. Sad that it always seems to be children in schools that are the targets. Typical to pick on ones who cannot defend themselves.

I don't know how accurate this is but the shooter in Nova Scotia was said to have had a S&W 5946 pistol just like the standard issue of the RCMP. These are not sold in store but there quite a few that have been lot or stolen in the past. And he then had the fallen officers side arm too. I think there is a lot of information the government really doesn't want to come out but it seems to be leaking a bit at a time.

[barretcreek]

Jordan Peterson observed that mass killers are all nihilists. So as society endures a temporary collapse the murderous rage subsides. We'll see.

[lyman]

That's the rub, no doubt about it.

So far every country has decided it's easier to get rid of the "bad" guns than to figure out who the jerks are. But every mass shooting increases the constituency of people who want to see some kind of change.

true,

ban the object, and not the person using it

shame really that someone has not objectively looked into the history of the past offenders, at least not with the fear of violating hippaa rights, and tried to draw a pattern,

[Vern Humphrey]

But then there are countries that the general population have no firearms like China. BUT they are have knifes and their versions of nut jobs use those knifes to kill. As many as 25 at a time.

I believe England is one of those countries. It is now illegal, I understand, to carry a pocket knife in London.

[rayg]

Mass killers are always ugly men so shoot all ugly men so they don't become killers. Simple.

I better hide..Lol

[Mark in Ottawa]

Lyman

You are correct. They are the firearms classified as "Prohibited". People who owned those firearms when they were reclassified as prohibited can keep them, take them to the range and sell them only to other people who have a prohibited permit. They cannot transfer them to anybody else including family members, unless that family member has a prohibited permit. When they die, the firearms can only be sold to someone who has such a permit or they must be turned into the police for destruction. These firearms include all handguns in .25 calibre, all handguns in .32 except for some that are used shooting competitions, all handguns with a barrel length less than 105 mm (4.13 inches) and other specified firearms such as AKs, machine guns, etc.

These new changes are declaring 9 groups of rifles as prohibited including all AR15 types and M14 types. Until now, the ARs were restricted but not prohibited and the M14 was not restricted at all. (That was odd since the old Canadian Army rifle, the FN was functionally the same, used the same ammunition and was prohibited)

What isn't clear is why these newly declared prohibiteds are being treated differently than the previous ones. As I mentioned, it was possible to take a prohibited weapon to the range but now they are saying that you can't even do that. Just to complicate things, there is a 2 year amnesty during which time you have to dispose of the weapons by selling them to the government. If you don't want to, you can get grandfathered but as far as I can tell you can never take the weapon out of the house.

[TSimonetti]

A benevolent dictator is still a dictator, and yes even the power structure of a so-called Democracy will arrest, charge, punish and in some cases eventually murder the "lawbreakers", who were up until recently just normal law abiding citizens.

[togor]

A benevolent dictator is still a dictator, and yes even the power structure of a so-called Democracy will arrest, charge, punish and in some cases eventually murder the "lawbreakers", who were up until recently just normal law abiding citizens.

This act, as disappointing as it is to gun owners, does not render Trudeau a dictator. Nor would his cultivation of a paramilitary support base make him a democratic republican (small d, r). In a broad sampling, armed supporters are more likely a feature of repressive regimes than open ones.

[Vern Humphrey]

A benevolent dictator is still a dictator, and yes even the power structure of a so-called Democracy will arrest, charge, punish and in some cases eventually murder the "lawbreakers", who were up until recently just normal law abiding citizens.

There was a wolf terrorizing all the animals. They finally decided to ask Man to help. Man said, "I will do it, but Horse must lend me his speed and strength." Horse said, "I am willing," so Man made a saddle and bridle and put them on horse and mounted him. They chased the wolf down on the plain and speared him, and all the animals cheered.

Then Horse said, "Now that our common enemy is vanquished, take off the saddle and bridle and restore my freedom."

"The Hell you say," said Man. "Giddyup, Dobbin."

The moral of this story is, when you give someone power over you, he will use it for his own purposes and never willingly give it up.

[clintonhater]

This act, as disappointing as it is to gun owners, does not render Trudeau a dictator.

But ruling entirely by Executive Orders that can't be disputed or challenged or interfered with in any way by the Legislature or Courts, surely does, & that's what's happened in NYS.

[togor]

But ruling entirely by Executive Orders that can't be disputed or challenged or interfered with in any way by the Legislature or Courts, surely does, & that's what's happened in NYS.

And both Canada and NYS will have reasonably fair elections in which voters can render a verdict.

[lyman]

Canada, like other Commonwealth countries , have a different set of rules, and different ways of making those rules than we do,

despite the elections,

[togor]

https://www.nationalreview.com/bench...about-to-dawn/

Talk in this country of judges deciding bans are illegal. If that happens, pressure could shift to intensive registration, as in a public interest to know who is in possession of what kind of firepower, for safety purposes. I know some people who fear that a good bit more than a selective ban on some types of firearms.

[barretcreek]

https://www.nationalreview.com/bench...about-to-dawn/

Talk in this country of judges deciding bans are illegal. If that happens, pressure could shift to intensive registration, as in a public interest to know who is in possession of what kind of firepower, for safety purposes. I know some people who fear that a good bit more than a selective ban on some types of firearms.

Our neighbors tried that. All it accomplished was to let the crooks know who to rob.

[togor]

Our neighbors tried that. All it accomplished was to let the crooks know who to rob.

Public register? Seems unlikely.