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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #1

    Prestige Ameritech

    Is a mask company in Texas that has currently idle production capacity to make 7 million N95 masks/month.

    In January the owner went to the Feds to encourage them to help start those lines, as a businessman but also a citizen who believes his country ought to be able to source such gear domestically. The government said no. And they still say no.

    I would very much like to understand why the country cannot figure out how to get that production online. Of course at this point if production starts, it will be like admitting someone made a mistake, which is something this administration refuses to do.
    Last edited by togor; 05-09-2020, 10:05.
  • barretcreek
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 6065

    #2
    Some time ago I posted photos of the block of marble a private citizen purchased to replace the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, which is deteriorating. The paper pushers have steadfastly refused his donation, citing all kinds of gobblygook. Bottom line is their defective egos cannot handle being bypassed and ignored. And in some cases no opportunity for graft.

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    • lyman
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 11268

      #3
      did the government release a bid for the masks it is buying?

      gotta go thru the bureaucratic process regardless,


      and a Minority owned firm hiring pregnant blind disabled transgender vets with mental issues will get the contract first ,,,,,,



      and has this guy reached out to the states?


      or better yet, crank them up and put them on Amazon or similar ,,,




      basically , doesn't seem like much of a businessman

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #4
        Time will tell. I would simply like to know the story.

        Likely the issue is the money required to restart the lines. According to one article I read, not cheap. He probably wants a commitment from the government for a certain minimum.

        A few #'s: 7 M masks/month x 24 months would be 168 M masks over 2 years.

        Right now I could not buy 50 real N95 masks if I wanted to. There are millions of people like me out there.

        In WW2 we thought nothing of building and running plants for 2 years and then shutting them down. Of course then the Government wasn't effing around about the problem.

        I know at least three guys who write procurement contracts who would have no problem getting a win-win-win outcome here (mfgr, gvt, public).

        Seems like a legit business.

        Last edited by togor; 05-09-2020, 12:06.

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        • Carbine64
          Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 70

          #5
          We have a local company starting to make the Masks and they are hiring do you need a job.

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          • S.A. Boggs
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 8568

            #6
            Originally posted by Carbine64
            We have a local company starting to make the Masks and they are hiring do you need a job.

            Sam

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            • togor
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 17610

              #7
              Originally posted by Carbine64
              We have a local company starting to make the Masks and they are hiring do you need a job.
              N95? As Mr. Boggs tells us, not all masks are the same. We have a home-made batch here too.

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              • Carbine64
                Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 70

                #8
                N95 yes.They were able to tool up and start making them. Battelle in columbus came up with a way to clean PPE .

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Carbine64
                  N95 yes.They were able to tool up and start making them. Battelle in columbus came up with a way to clean PPE .
                  I heard about the cleaning. UV light.

                  Still no N95s on store shelves so AFIK there aren't enough.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11268

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    I heard about the cleaning. UV light.

                    Still no N95s on store shelves so AFIK there aren't enough.

                    getting them on store shelves takes time, and almost as much red tape as a Gov't contract,

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                    • Marty T.
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 491

                      #11
                      Hey, I have a business. Maybe I could try to get the gov. to pay me to start a line. Not sure for what, but if they're paying, I'm in.
                      In reality, I don't want the gov. to use my tax dollars to pay someone to start up "their" business. It's called "free enterprise". If he wants to start a line, have at it and make the money to pay for the line and don't use an excuse that you want to "help" to mooch.

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Marty T.
                        Hey, I have a business. Maybe I could try to get the gov. to pay me to start a line. Not sure for what, but if they're paying, I'm in.
                        In reality, I don't want the gov. to use my tax dollars to pay someone to start up "their" business. It's called "free enterprise". If he wants to start a line, have at it and make the money to pay for the line and don't use an excuse that you want to "help" to mooch.
                        Too late. Every freeloader, illegal immigrant, high school dropout and drug user is now OUR responsibility and we have to pay.

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
                          Too late. Every freeloader, illegal immigrant, high school dropout and drug user is now OUR responsibility and we have to pay.
                          Hate to break the news but you like most here fit the definition of "takers" that was in effect in the 2012 election.

                          Does the country need more masks? What is needed to get the line up? Is there a chance that the up-front money can be recovered over the life of the contract?

                          I have more than a few cans of Lake City 5.56 and 7.62. All of it sold off by Federal as XM, so none of it military surplus since the military never took possession of it. That ammo was loaded on government-owned equipment in a government-owned plant. I assume the government isn't taking a hit for Federal selling overruns or rejected lots (still within SAAMI specs) to the public. It wouldn't surprise me if the government doesn't get a small piece of the action on civilian sales, in the form of lower contract costs.

                          Like I said....the demand is there. The equipment is there. Unless it is a nationwide raw material bottleneck, such that 3M has 20 lines waiting for feed stock, or something like that, I would think any half-competent procurement specialist could put together a deal, much less our "Dealmaker-in-chief".
                          Last edited by togor; 05-10-2020, 03:46.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11268

                            #14
                            you keep talking about how this guy is not getting a contract and it is the governments, or rather Trumps fault,

                            this guy needs to get his act together, get some capital to get rolling , and get his people out in social media, (promoting the company, not crying about it) to the CEO's, Purchasing Agents, etc etc at the hospitals, and state level government ,,


                            private sector contracts would be faster than any Gov't contract negotiations,


                            better yet, since you mentioned having friends that did procurement, get them involved and see what you can get them to do for the guy,


                            you seem to forget that the Gov't is YUGE, and this ain't Europe,

                            things get done here differently, and even if Trump is a serious micro manager, one whiney plant owner is not going to get his attention in a good way,

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              I don't care about the guy. If he sells at cost to the government, fine by me.

                              You got a hot tip on where we can get masks?

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