Biden insults man named "Charlemane The God." Says "you ain't black enough."

[lyman]

I ask tough questions. To my view the twisters and turners are the people who don't want to take them straight up.

There is a reason most blacks don't support Trump. You say it's because they've been fooled. You're putting down a LOT of people when you do that.

I give them more credit, that they see something in Trump that they recognize as not where they wanna go. Tell me why you're right and I'm wrong. That's a tough question, but take it straight up if you can.

you twist and turn to try to get things to go your way, and to dodge things that are not,



and have a habit of beating a dead horse to a pulp if it gets the reaction you want,


as far as Blacks and Trump, I know a few that are proud of voting for Trump, and will do so again, and they struggle with the fact that so many of their race will not see what the Dems have done to not help (their words, btw)

I also worked in an area where the folks (predominately African American) voted for Obama, simply cause he is black, and no other reason, (told this by several),

fooled or not, it is the way it is in some communities, preconceived notions that may not ever change, based on skin tone and where you live or worship

[togor]

Yes the ad hominem attack, again.

If I turn the tables on someone's weak argument, I'm twisting and turning. If I stay locked in (which would seem to be the opposite of twisting and turning) I'm beating a dead horse. In other words, it will always be something.

Let's beat the horse this time. Are blacks wrong to have overwhelmingly concluded that they can do better with someone other than Trump? Even Biden, gaffes (and apologies) notwithstanding?

Added: we can try this another way--who wants the GOP to take on issues that are of paramount concern to African-Americans? For example, the number of police shootings of unarmed black citizens and apparent lack of sensitivity to the issue.

[S.A. Boggs]

Biden is the Plantation Owner who is kind to blacks by letting them know that he is on their side. Just as long as they will do as he bids and not talk back.
Sam

[lyman]

Yes the ad hominem attack, again.

If I turn the tables on someone's weak argument, I'm twisting and turning. If I stay locked in (which would seem to be the opposite of twisting and turning) I'm beating a dead horse. In other words, it will always be something.

Let's beat the horse this time. Are blacks wrong to have overwhelmingly concluded that they can do better with someone other than Trump? Even Biden, gaffes (and apologies) notwithstanding?

Added: we can try this another way--who wants the GOP to take on issues that are of paramount concern to African-Americans? For example, the number of police shootings of unarmed black citizens and apparent lack of sensitivity to the issue.

not an Ad whatever, truth based on your previous posts, twisted , turned beaten and locked, whether you accept it or not, it is your way,


anytime a group of people are placed in a voting block, one should wonder why, regardless of the voting block,

is it racial, stereotyping, feelgoodism, economical etc etc,

while most polls are not trustworthy (follow the money) and most in the last cycle were way off, why do some folks put so much faith in them?


as far as the added part,

sure would like to know why it is a polarizing issue and what can be done about it, (I think police in general have become more 'operators' vs actual police, and not saying that as a slam, , why? many factors probably_

would also like to know why violence in those same communities is accepted when not committed by police,

[togor]

Maybe if some African-Americans were more active on the forum we would get some insights. I too am on the outside looking in on those questions, but I try not to judge too much.

[clintonhater]

I also worked in an area where the folks (predominately African American) voted for Obama, simply cause he is black, and no other reason, (told this by several),

That I can understand! But PLENTY of white liberals did so for exactly the same reason! Because for them, "blackness" in anything, any aspect of culture, is automatically a good thing, something to be promoted & advanced.

[Carbine64]

I don't have the time to play tag today, outside working after ten days of rain.Did go out and mow the club ranges perfect day to be outside.Total of ten acres first five with the zero turn next five with the John Deere Tractor.Thinking Sunday will be a day to go out and shoot for a few hours.

[togor]

That I can understand! But PLENTY of white liberals did so for exactly the same reason! Because for them, "blackness" in anything, any aspect of culture, is automatically a good thing, something to be promoted & advanced.

Obama was half white. Does that count?

[clintonhater]

Obama was half white. Does that count?

Not at all! "Half white" is (culturally as well as physically speaking) FULL black; mulatto, if you want to get technical, but that's a quibble. Ditto for quarter-black. Only when the "octaroon" stage is attained (O, Happy Day!) does some ambiguity creep into the equation, as in the case of the Duchess of LA.

[togor]

Not at all! "Half white" is (culturally as well as physically speaking) FULL black; mulatto, if you want to get technical, but that's a quibble. Ditto for quarter-black. Only when the "octaroon" stage is attained (O, Happy Day!) does some ambiguity creep into the equation, as in the case of the Duchess of LA.

What about Cherokee?

[dryheat]

Ooh, Cherokee. Maybe not Einsteins either, but they sure look good. They worked their way over the land bridge 15,000 yrs ago because they had some ambition. The blacks...uh,well, they got trucked over. Now days you need a powerful magnifying glass to figure out the heritage.

[rayg]

What about Cherokee?

Don't the government consider that if a person has only a small percent of American Indian in their blood line they are considered Indian and eligible for government grants?.....

[lyman]

Don't the government consider that if a person has only a small percent of American Indian in their blood line they are considered eligible for government grants?.....

generally speaking yes, if you can prove that blood line is in an accredited tribe,


had a kid that worked for me that got a free ride at a local college,

due to his last name,

his paternal line dated back to a local tribe name,

he was whiter than most, but had the family tree that passed the test

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Obama was half white. Does that count?

nope,

one thing I picked up working with the public,


plenty of white girls want a black boyfriend at least once, and some actually get married,

however the black folk will accept the kids as black, but usually don't care for the white mom, and will give the guy some crap for dating outside the norm,

heard that more than once in passing conversation,

[clintonhater]

plenty of white girls want a black boyfriend at least once

Is there a Guinness category for "understatement"? If so, this one takes the pole position.

[Roadkingtrax]

Is there a Guinness category for "understatement"? If so, this one takes the pole position.

Oh com'on, you've never dated anyone of a different ethnicity?