Thinking Maybe Alcatraz?

[togor]

It's getting harder all of the time to intimidate without getting busted. The reason? Cameras everywhere. Which is to say, what the internet creates, it also destroys.

To the point, starting to think that maybe not a bad idea to re-purpose an island for those people who just can't learn to get along with others, like this lady. Alcatraz comes to mind. Hope it doesn't get too crowded.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/23/san-leandro-woman-posts-racist-xenophobic-letter-poc-homes/

[Fred Pillot]

Great idea. Obamagate, deep state. Alcatraz, what could be better.

[lyman]

put her on a prison island for typing a note?

doesn't the Constitution come into play here?


maybe we should save that island for those that want to prohibit free speech etc?

[dryheat]

Your going to need a bigger island.

[togor]

put her on a prison island for typing a note?

doesn't the Constitution come into play here?


maybe we should save that island for those that want to prohibit free speech etc?

If you come on my property uninvited and leave behind a note telling me to leave because of my skin color or whatever I don't think that is free speech.

Added: get the island for leaving a note? Of course not. But some don't stop at the note.

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Your going to need a bigger island.

Yes. Maybe we can hire the Chinese to build us one.

[rayg]

It's obvious she is not normal mentally..and needs professional help..That is pretty typical of writings or ramblings made by people who are suffering from a mental disorder.. Saw a lot of the same type of letters during my law enforcement career..both political and what ever writings..

[Vern Humphrey]

Lawyers and statists will often cite Oliver Wendell Holmes's opinion, "There is no right to shout fire in a crowded theater." And they never inquire about the actual case. Some men were arrested and sent to prison in WWI for handing out anti-war leaflets at an Army Induction Center!!

As long as the writer is no clear danger to others, let them be.

[togor]

Lawyers and statists will often cite Oliver Wendell Holmes's opinion, "There is no right to shout fire in a crowded theater." And they never inquire about the actual case. Some men were arrested and sent to prison in WWI for handing out anti-war leaflets at an Army Induction Center!!

As long as the writer is no clear danger to others, let them be.

What about a 'castle doctine' take on this? If she comes uninvited into my property, say open-carrying because that's part of her thing, am I within my rights to perceive a threat and defend myself? Does she have to be a 250 lb. man for that to be the case?

I think Ray has it right, that there's a couple of teeth missing from her gears, to have this particular hobby. She could have been worse than arrested.

[clintonhater]

Some men were arrested and sent to prison in WWI for handing out anti-war leaflets at an Army Induction Center!!

Leaflets! Even to express anti-war sentiments privately, be caught reading a German-language newspaper, even speaking German, & be reported by Wilson's organized network of informers, would land you in one of at least four concentration camps built for that purpose. By far, the greatest suppression of civil liberties that's ever occurred in this country took place during 1917 & 1918 under Wilson's Espionage Act of 1917 & Sedition Act of 1918.

PS, I'd like to add that I didn't write that note! Even though I could have.

[Vern Humphrey]

Leaflets! Even to express anti-war sentiments privately, be caught reading a German-language newspaper, even speaking German, & be reported by Wilson's organized network of informers, would land you in one of at least four concentration camps built for that purpose. By far, the greatest suppression of civil liberties that's ever occurred in this country took place during 1917 & 1918 under Wilson's Espionage Act of 1917 & Sedition Act of 1918.

PS, I'd like to add that I didn't write that note! Even though I could have.

Oh, yeah. Wilson could have taught Hitler a thing or two.

[jdmcgrath]

Wilson had a bunch of ambivalent Germans here and wasn't messing around, and comparing him to Hitler is the stuff of a bad World History course.

[Vern Humphrey]

Wilson had a bunch of ambivalent Germans here and wasn't messing around, and comparing him to Hitler is the stuff of a bad World History course.

Really? Would YOU say that merely handing out leaflets is a prison offense?

Wilson even had his own ministry of propaganda!

[clintonhater]

Wilson had a bunch of ambivalent Germans here and wasn't messing around, and comparing him to Hitler is the stuff of a bad World History course.

Comparing him to Hitler is certainly inappropriate, but does that mean any repression short of Hitlerism is justified? Comparison to Joseph Goebbels, however, is not inappropriate, because he set up a Propaganda Office ("Committee on Public Information") to fuel anti-German hysteria that would have done Goebbels proud. You need to review your US History if you think the hatred whipped up by his adm. was directed only toward "a bunch of ambivalent Germans." It was during this time that many "Schmidts" changed their names to "Smith" to escape persecution.

One of the victims of this hysteria was famed gunsmith & barrel-maker Adolph Niedner who lost his USMC contract merely because he continued to speak German among his German friends, a "subversive" activity under the Espionage Act.

[clintonhater]

Wilson even had his own ministry of propaganda!

This was the Committee on Public Information, which eventually had a paid staff of thousands, and which organized a huge network of informers to spy on German-Americans. Anybody who thinks "ministry of propaganda" is an exaggeration needs to read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_on_Public_Information

[Vern Humphrey]

My grandmother, who was raised in a German-speaking family in San Antonio, Texas, had to stop speaking German because of the suppression of anything German by the government. As a result, my mother and aunt never had the opportunity to learn German along with English -- and neither did I.