At least they didn't claim George Floyd died of the China Flu ...

[dogtag]

I guess that might have looked a little suspicious.
But they claim the Cop kneeling on his neck had little to do with his death.
Floyd's family have hired their own Pathologist - I don't blame them.
Might be some giggerypokery going on.

https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/05/30/autopsy-reveals-george-floyd-didnt-die-of-asphyxia-or-strangulation/

[togor]

The link drops the adjective traumatic from the asphyxia statement. Which says the blogger is either of low wattage, has a hidden agenda, or both. No sign of trauma (eg. crushed windpipe) in the autopsy, per the ME. There are positions however where someone's own weight, with a little extra help, can be too much to work against to sustain breathing. That's asphyxia too, and what happened here.

[togor]

And crucifixion is a very slow form of asphyxiation. The diaphragm has to work against gravity to draw breath, and eventually it grows fatigued and fails. A very slow death, said to be agonizing in part because the victim is aware of what is happening but powerless to do anything about it. Of all the creatures on this earth, humans are without a doubt the most vicious killers. Created in God's Own Image? Let us hope not!

[clintonhater]

If he hadn't died, would the knee on his neck when he'd already been cuffed & was lying on the ground have been appropriate pollce procedure?

[rayg]

Haven' seen this story on any of the other major new sites I check so far..Waiting to see if it's legit..

[Vern Humphrey]

If he hadn't died, would the knee on his neck when he'd already been cuffed & was lying on the ground have been appropriate pollce procedure?

No, because it was unnecessary force.

Understand, consequences are part of the crime -- if you shoot at a man and miss, that's not quite as bad as killing him. So if the consequences hadn't been so serious, the offense wouldn't have been so serious.

[togor]

It's not.

[RED]

The cop used force that is not taught in training. Police training officers agree.

The murder victim had other cardiac and respiratory illnesses. The stress and panic of the situation was likely enough to kill the dude.

Watch the video you will see a stream of liquid flowing from under the bumper of the cop car. The man’s bladder relaxed when he died and his bladder drained.

Have you ever witnessed somebody die?

I have. And I’d bet that cop has too. Nevertheless he kept his knee on the body even though there was visual evidence of his death.

Why? Because he wanted to further piss off the lawless protesters in hope they would commit crimes and could then be handcuffed and abused by bullies with a badge.

Laws don’t apply to cops or Democrats.

[clintonhater]

So if the consequences hadn't been so serious, the offense wouldn't have been so serious.

Certainly not, but serious enough to fire his ass for grossly excessive use of force. Except, if the man had not died, this cop would still be on the force, probably not even suspended with pay.

[rayg]

[QUOTE=RED;584231] Laws don’t apply to cops or Democrats.

Still bitter for all the tickets you got huh..I guess your truck was just driving it self right...Lol

[shadycon]

Why was the guy being arrested? What did he do before being on the ground? What is the whole story from the BEGINNING?

[togor]

Why was the guy being arrested? What did he do before being on the ground? What is the whole story from the BEGINNING?

He had bought some stuff at a store with what turned out to be a bad $20 bill. Someone called 911 and said the guy was in the car outside. So cops rolled and took him out of the car at gunpoint. They cuffed him and wanted to put him in the back of a squad but the report says he didn't like that idea, so they put him on the ground and the rest as they say is history.

There were three people in the car. You know what might have been better? Cop makes those guys go get a real $20 (assuming none of them have one on them) and go back into the store to make the merchant whole. Seems more practical to me but Ray will probably tell us that sending the guy to jail is tons better for everyone, including the guy, because it will give him just the nudge he needs to turn his life around.

[rayg]

Seems more practical to me but Ray will probably tell us that sending the guy to jail is tons better for everyone, including the guy, because it will give him just the nudge he needs to turn his life around.

How about I say Ray would not say that...what are you going to say now, humm, Lol

[togor]

I'm going to ask Ray what Ray would say?

[lyman]

The cop used force that is not taught in training. Police training officers agree.

The murder victim had other cardiac and respiratory illnesses. The stress and panic of the situation was likely enough to kill the dude.

Watch the video you will see a stream of liquid flowing from under the bumper of the cop car. The man’s bladder relaxed when he died and his bladder drained.

Have you ever witnessed somebody die?

I have. And I’d bet that cop has too. Nevertheless he kept his knee on the body even though there was visual evidence of his death.

Why? Because he wanted to further piss off the lawless protesters in hope they would commit crimes and could then be handcuffed and abused by bullies with a badge.

Laws don’t apply to cops or Democrats.

I spoke to a couple, and work with a few ex cops,

that restraining technique is taught here, but the neck is off limits,

the knee on the center of the back, between the shoulder blades, foot off to the side of the neck (basically your toes hanging off the shoulder on either side of the head) to keep a person down,
supposedly hard to get up with someone pinning you that way,

but again, all told me the neck is off limits,