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  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #1

    Don't They Know About Cell Phone Cameras?

    Every swing of the baton is caught on video by someone. Consider the absurdity of this moment: these two women get knocked down while just a few steps away a bystander records freely. And then there's the elder in Buffalo, knocked down so casually. "He tripped" they said, and then the video came out.



    If the police want to keep pulling people in off the sidelines, they'll keep making these kinds of mistakes.
  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #2
    What the heck are you trying to say?
    Last edited by rayg; 06-05-2020, 04:14.

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    • Gun Smoke
      Banned
      • Sep 2019
      • 1658

      #3
      Perhaps the police should just film everything and let these "know it all, genius" liberals uphold law and order.

      From a cops point of view, they are always outnumbered. They never know exactly what they are walking into. They never know if a person is carrying a weapon. They don't know the other persons intentions. If they aren't allowed to yell, touch, or harm anyone how can they do their jobs?

      In regards to old people, women, etc.: If they aren't part of the problem why are they out on the streets during times of protest? If any of them had stepped aside nothing more than likely would have happened to them.

      Now while I don't defend every cops actions, they are humans and can make mistakes but given what they are expected to enforce and control some people ARE going to get hurt, even if it is merely because they are in the way.

      The U.S is too PC. In fact PC should not even be a term. Peaceful protest and demonstrations are allowed, but don't have to be. If things turn violent then the tear gas and water cannons should be deployed to message "you don't own the city" and "we're not going to put up with this s**t".

      If nothing changes----nothing changes.

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      • lyman
        Administrator - OFC
        • Aug 2009
        • 11296

        #4
        like this tweet , (and it seems every political candidate past and present contributed)

        Barack Obama
        @BarackObama
        ·
        14h
        Real change requires protest to highlight a problem, and politics to implement practical solutions and laws. As I mentioned yesterday in our
        @MBK_Alliance
        town hall, there are several steps our mayors and elected officials can take right now:



        what did he do to fix the issues (many of which he created)??

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Funny Lyman how with Trump the emphasis is on all the opposition he faces whereas with Obama no mention is made of opposition. This is the problem with standalone arguments.

          Ray: every bad look from the cops that fails to meet expectations risks drawing more attention to the issue. The average Joe or Jane watching the vid doesn't understand the whacking and why this a healthy sign for community-police relations.

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          • Vern Humphrey
            Administrator - OFC
            • Aug 2009
            • 15875

            #6
            Originally posted by rayg
            What the heck are you trying to say?
            Apparently you and I are in the same boat -- we don't speak Gibberish.

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #7
              Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
              Apparently you and I are in the same boat -- we don't speak Gibberish.
              You have him on ignore. How are you once again instigating behind someone else's ability to be more of an adult?
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Originally posted by Roadkingtrax
                You have him on ignore. How are you once again instigating behind someone else's ability to be more of an adult?
                Reminds me of a mouthy little kid who wishes he could play with the bigger boys but is a little scared so he stays on his front porch.

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                • togor
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                  Peaceful protest and demonstrations are allowed, but don't have to be. If things turn violent then the tear gas and water cannons should be deployed to message "you don't own the city" and "we're not going to put up with this s**t".
                  The words of someone, possibly not even an American, who clearly lacks a passing familiarity with the basics of the First Amendment. How come I have to do everything?????? Come on guys get on the right side of the moment here. Gun Smoke embraces the street logic of a Facist dictator. It's effing crazy!

                  Amendment I

                  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
                  Last edited by togor; 06-05-2020, 10:11.

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                  • lyman
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 11296

                    #10
                    Originally posted by togor
                    Funny Lyman how with Trump the emphasis is on all the opposition he faces whereas with Obama no mention is made of opposition. This is the problem with standalone arguments.

                    Ray: every bad look from the cops that fails to meet expectations risks drawing more attention to the issue. The average Joe or Jane watching the vid doesn't understand the whacking and why this a healthy sign for community-police relations.
                    take the glasses off and re read the statement,


                    these problems of police brutality did not start in 2016, or 2008 , they have been around a good while,

                    ruby ridge?

                    branch davidians?

                    little cuban kid in FLA?

                    numerous 'oopsy's' in raids where the addresses are wrong etc etc

                    and how about that row of houses that burnt up in Philly years ago??



                    so if Obama say

                    Real change requires protest to highlight a problem, and politics to implement practical solutions and laws.

                    there have been loads of protests,,, yet the other part of the comment??


                    what has been done?

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Lyman if you could change one thing about how policing is done on this country, what would it be? Not fishing for a gotcha, genuinely curious.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11296

                        #12
                        Originally posted by togor
                        Lyman if you could change one thing about how policing is done on this country, what would it be? Not fishing for a gotcha, genuinely curious.
                        you are always fishing for a gotcha, it is your way,

                        how about everyone plays by the rules, including police, and they are held to a high standard?


                        too much to ask?


                        remember, the Police are citizens, just like you and I

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lyman
                          you are always fishing for a gotcha, it is your way,

                          how about everyone plays by the rules, including police, and they are held to a high standard?


                          too much to ask?


                          remember, the Police are citizens, just like you and I
                          Thank you for the answer. Kind of non-specific but that would be an improvement. Too much to ask? Has been so far in a lot of places. Maybe that changes.

                          There's the saying,

                          "don't do __________ or you'll have a riot on your hands!"

                          Meant as a caution against taking something too far. Police need to realize that they're causing some of the problems out there.

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                          • rayg
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 7444

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Thank you for the answer. Kind of non-specific but that would be an improvement. Too much to ask? Has been so far in a lot of places. Maybe that changes.

                            There's the saying,

                            "don't do __________ or you'll have a riot on your hands!"

                            Meant as a caution against taking something too far. Police need to realize that they're causing some of the problems out there.
                            So you are saying just that the police should turn their backs on illegal /criminal activity..Right?

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                            • S.A. Boggs
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 8579

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rayg
                              So you are saying just that the police should turn their backs on illegal /criminal activity..Right?
                              Why not? Just give the public what they now want and richly deserve!
                              Sam

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