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  • RED
    Very Senior Member - OFC
    • Aug 2009
    • 11689

    #1

    Absolute craziness

    The "defunding," of the cops is so stupid it probably will happen. Notice, you don't see the words "defunding policing."

    So what does it mean... What it means is somebody else will do the policing but they would not be called "City" police. The most likely replacement would be the Sheriff and his deputies. County Sheriffs don't answer to the State Legislature and they would be hard to, defund or disband.

    What will this change if the Sheriff takes over... First of all he would have to hire a lot more deputies, and where would he get them? The answer is from the pool of "defunded," cops that are unemployed. In other words the exact same people the idiots in the basement thought they had eliminated.

    Black lives matter is a total racist and fake scam. The Democrat Governor of Kentucky has promised to pay for all the health care of his black or African American voters. But, not one penny if you are a poor Latino, Asian, or white.

    Pure unadulterated racism.

    If Black lives matter, why were 30 black lives taken in Chicago over the weekend by other blacks?
    Last edited by RED; 06-09-2020, 05:39.
  • clintonhater
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 5220

    #2
    Originally posted by RED
    If Black lives matter, why were 30 black lives taken in Chicago over the weekend by other blacks?
    Bros offing other bros doesn't count.

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    • S.A. Boggs
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 8568

      #3
      I thought that I saw some craziness in the psych hospital, what the left is doing is much worse then I could imagine. @ least those in the hospital had a reason, not now!
      Sam

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      • dogtag
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 14985

        #4
        The Sheriff's Dept couldn't afford it - unless the City paid up.

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #5
          I thought conservatives were against excessive taxation?

          When the police are discussed, suddenly they become all socialists again...pick a side.
          Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 06-09-2020, 10:59.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • rayg
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7444

            #6
            Were I came from, the sheriff deputies made more money then the municipal police officers and had better paid benefits.
            Last edited by rayg; 06-09-2020, 11:24.

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            • sid
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3198

              #7
              Black Lives Matter is nothing more than a domestic terrorist group. A police officer is 20 times more likely to be killed by a black man than vice versa.

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Not sure where Sid is getting his stats. Some interesting reading here.

                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/

                Maybe let the cops handle the armed robbers and have another agency for those hearing voices or contemplating suicide by law enforcement.
                Last edited by togor; 06-09-2020, 02:39.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11269

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Not sure where Did us getting his stats. Some interesting reading here.

                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/

                  Maybe let the cops handle the armed robbers and have another agency for those hearing voices or contemplating suicide by law enforcement.
                  and what would be the criteria ?

                  have 911 dispatchers do an inteview of each call to see who gets dispatched?

                  and will there be a different office or branch of the police for the hearing voices crowd,

                  the suicide, directed to mental health dept while they are on the top of the building or bridge?

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lyman
                    and what would be the criteria ?

                    have 911 dispatchers do an inteview of each call to see who gets dispatched?

                    and will there be a different office or branch of the police for the hearing voices crowd,

                    the suicide, directed to mental health dept while they are on the top of the building or bridge?
                    Hey there's chatter about our inadequate mental health support network every time a mass shooter goes off.

                    Those hearing voices come out of the same feed stock, so

                    Maybe two reasons go together.

                    Cops themselves say budget cuts leave them as the last agency with a fast response capability, but their skill set has limits, and when someone has a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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                    • lyman
                      Administrator - OFC
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 11269

                      #11
                      Originally posted by togor
                      Hey there's chatter about our inadequate mental health support network every time a mass shooter goes off.

                      Those hearing voices come out of the same feed stock, so

                      Maybe two reasons go together.

                      Cops themselves say budget cuts leave them as the last agency with a fast response capability, but their skill set has limits, and when someone has a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
                      inadequate mental health has been a thing for a long time,

                      now 911 dispatchers will have to be incharge of that too?


                      as I mentioned,

                      police, dispatched for XXX stuff
                      police lite , for YYY stuff,
                      white padded van with Boggs in the passenger seat for Suicides,

                      maybe you and RED on the next level for the 'how long do I cook my Turkey '?


                      will be interesting to see how that pans out

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        It may be a thing where there are multiple agencies and they work together. Somehow 911 dispatchers can handle accidents, fires and crime reports. I'm not pursuaded that we just have to let the hammers cover every case where something isn't on fire or someone sick/bleeding. I knew people who were Social Workers and took calls with the police, like Boggs, before budget cuts.

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                        • Johnny P
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6260

                          #13
                          Multiple agency law enforcement? By the time they determined which agency had jurisdiction it would be too late anyway. Might be better to just do away with law enforcement like they want and let them kill each other.

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                          • lyman
                            Administrator - OFC
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 11269

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            It may be a thing where there are multiple agencies and they work together. Somehow 911 dispatchers can handle accidents, fires and crime reports. I'm not pursuaded that we just have to let the hammers cover every case where something isn't on fire or someone sick/bleeding. I knew people who were Social Workers and took calls with the police, like Boggs, before budget cuts.
                            think about that for a sec,


                            911 already dispatches Fire\EMS for everything from a high rise burning up to a kid with hiccups,

                            efficient, yet not, (as in every call gets a response, but do you need to send a hook and ladder to it?)


                            so , to use forum names, Johnny P robs a likker store, (get the good stuff, cause you might get away with it) and due to an error or overwhelmed calls, the meter maid gets dispatched in the 3 wheeled scooter?


                            meanwhile rayg stumps his toe in the yard and half the fire dept, and a police car show up?



                            what a nightmare that could be

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                            • rayg
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 7444

                              #15
                              [QUOTE=lyman;585541]

                              meanwhile rayg stumps his toe in the yard and half the fire dept, and a police car show up?

                              Ray says..Hey, I'm a tax payer and want the best public tax funded service I can get, what the heck!... what's wrong with that...
                              Last edited by rayg; 06-10-2020, 02:24.

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