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  • S.A. Boggs
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 8568

    #16
    Just encapsulate and let it die on the vine!
    Sam

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #17
      Originally posted by clintonhater
      Should they be used to prevent destruction of public & private property?
      Under the right circumstances, sure. But let us remember that part of the canon, which holds that an individual should not count on the police to protect them or their property. Hence CCW, security systems and private guards. That leaves open the question of what the police are for. Basically, jailers, and for some, shock troops against their political opponents.
      Last edited by togor; 06-13-2020, 09:48.

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      • clintonhater
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 5220

        #18
        Originally posted by togor
        Under the right circumstances, sure.
        Like public property, grounds of a courthouse, city hall, etc, where public monuments are located? Pulling down a heavy stone or bronze statue is not like spray-painting vandalism, done in an instant, it takes time to assemble the mob, time to attach ropes, etc.. Where were the cops while all this was going on? Obviously, ordered to stand back & let the destruction proceed by gutless civic officials pandering to mob violence. THIS is why Trump is talking, thank God, about restoration of law & order, while Dems encourage more rioting by making excuses for the rioters!

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #19
          Originally posted by clintonhater
          Like public property, grounds of a courthouse, city hall, etc, where public monuments are located? Pulling down a heavy stone or bronze statue is not like spray-painting vandalism, done in an instant, it takes time to assemble the mob, time to attach ropes, etc.. Where were the cops while all this was going on? Obviously, ordered to stand back & let the destruction proceed by gutless civic officials pandering to mob violence. THIS is why Trump is talking, thank God, about restoration of law & order, while Dems encourage more rioting by making excuses for the rioters!
          And if asked "how many lives should be forfeit to the police for these actions?" your answer is "all of them!"

          Next question: how many statues are being torn down in Seattle? None, so far as I know. So another pointless comparison. Just like all black ministers are bad because one gave a fiery sermon one time that you don't like.

          Police shouldn't be used for political enforcement. One might think that obvious, and pro-police at that, but one would be wrong! Even pointing this out irritates you.

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          • 98src
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 199

            #20
            Show me a "right winger" that has ever put up a barricade ( unless it was to keep out illegal aliens ).

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            • Roadkingtrax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 7835

              #21
              Originally posted by 98src
              Show me a "right winger" that has ever put up a barricade ( unless it was to keep out illegal aliens ).
              Bundy clan.
              "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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              • clintonhater
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 5220

                #22
                Originally posted by togor
                Police shouldn't be used for political enforcement.
                Protecting public property is political enforcement? NO lives would be lost, not even the worthless lives of rioting vermin, if the cops had simply done their job of keeping the mob away. These rioting vermin aren't Taliban eager to die for their cause, a mere show of force would convince them to go break shop windows elsewhere.

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                • Marty T.
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 491

                  #23
                  I just want all those who are supportive of this nonsense of destroying public and private property to invite them to their property for a destruction party and see how quick they want the police to come and start seeing that maybe it's not so wonderful. Only other idiots would support such actions. I guess now would be a good time to say that once again, Bible teaching would save the day. "Whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them". If we all did that, think how quick this would all dry up. But wait, we have too many that think there is no God and that man is the greatest. Well we see how well that is working out.

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #24
                    Originally posted by clintonhater
                    Protecting public property is political enforcement? NO lives would be lost, not even the worthless lives of rioting vermin, if the cops had simply done their job of keeping the mob away. These rioting vermin aren't Taliban eager to die for their cause, a mere show of force would convince them to go break shop windows elsewhere.
                    You're the one equating them.

                    Why? Because you DO want the police to keep your blood enemies in line, and property destruction is the pretext. Right wing media plays that up, for that reason--90% riots, 10% protest. Roll 'em!

                    The thing is, younger whites, even militia types (a type towards which I generally harbor suspicion) are seeing this for their own eyes, or on social media, and drawing a very different set of conclusions than the ones you would like. Things are happening very fast now, and even the Russian troll farms can't keep up.
                    Last edited by togor; 06-13-2020, 01:48.

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                    • clintonhater
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 5220

                      #25
                      Originally posted by togor
                      You're the one equating them.
                      Not at all--a Taliban would happily blow himself up to kill police or destroy property, whereas the rioting rabble here want to live to riot & loot another day.

                      There's one point of comparison, however: both seek to destroy the revered cultural monuments of others, & erase the history they don't like.

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                      • togor
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                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #26
                        Originally posted by clintonhater
                        Not at all--a Taliban would happily blow himself up to kill police or destroy property, whereas the rioting rabble here want to live to riot & loot another day.

                        There's one point of comparison, however: both seek to destroy the revered cultural monuments of others, & erase the history they don't like.
                        Now you're just ranting.

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                        • clintonhater
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 5220

                          #27
                          Originally posted by togor
                          Now you're just ranting.
                          So revered cultural monuments are NOT being destroyed & vandalized, & history erased? Objecting to such destruction is ranting?

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                          • rayg
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 7444

                            #28
                            He knows it's not.....

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #29
                              Originally posted by clintonhater
                              So revered cultural monuments are NOT being destroyed & vandalized, & history erased? Objecting to such destruction is ranting?
                              In Seattle? Not happening. So why do you want to crush them?

                              The rant is to justify crushing all protests everywhere because something happened somewhere that you can point to. You would trade 1,000 protestors' lives for one statue of a minor CSA official whose name you would have to look up. It's a rant because your arguments lack any sense of measure or proportion to them. It's 1840 in your mind and rumor is spreading like wildfire of a slave revolt and you can't understand for the life of you why in the world the sheriff isn't calling out the full constabulary to put this thing down. Only it isn't 1840, and your attitude is way over the edge. That's what makes it a rant.
                              Last edited by togor; 06-13-2020, 04:54.

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                              • Roadkingtrax
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 7835

                                #30
                                Originally posted by clintonhater
                                So revered cultural monuments are NOT being destroyed & vandalized, & history erased? Objecting to such destruction is ranting?
                                Its akin to whining over the removal of a statue celebrating the statesmanship of Saddam Hussein.
                                Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 06-13-2020, 05:04.
                                "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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