Meet Steven Carrillo

[togor]

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/06/17/steven-carrillo-david-underwood-boogaloo-facebook-posts-santa-cruz-shooting-damon-gutzwiller/

He's the guy behind the shooting at the Federal Building in Oakland. Quote from the article:

On May 28 at approximately 7:20 a.m., Carrillo posted in a Facebook group: “It’s on our coast now, this needs to be nationwide. It’s
a great opportunity to target the specialty soup bois. Keep that energy going.”

FBI investigators say ‘specially soup bois’ in a Boogaloo reference to federal law enforcement officers.

Might need a new wing on ADX Florence before this is over.

[togor]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/air-force-sergeant-steven-carrillo-david-patrick-underwood-damon-gutzwiller-oakland

Here's what jumps out at me--

This guy kills several cops, shoots at others, does it as part of an organized movement, is clearly bad for both law & order plus 2A rights, and no one has anything to say about it. Vernon can't even bring himself to condemn this. But somewhere someone just sold BLM T-shirts so let's talk about that.

[lyman]

if you think the boogie bois are an organized movement, you may want to stop and regroup,


some dipstick may claim to be part of it, but from what I have seen, before the media scooped it up, it's just a big joke about what to do if the alphabet soup (ATF FBI etc ) want to confiscate,

[lyman]

[togor]

Okay so no problem. Nothing to see here, move along.

[rayg]

Yes boss....

[togor]

Yes boss....

Ray these guys shot up some cops, and there are more out there like them. Usually insults to law enforcement strike a nerve with you and you post something about it. Not this one?

[lyman]

Ray these guys shot up some cops, and there are more out there like them. Usually insults to law enforcement strike a nerve with you and you post something about it. Not this one?

these guys, as in the 2 rocket surgeons you posted a pic of,

that scribbled some quotes that link them to a big internet joke,


that they may have taken a bit too serious,


are there more internet rocket surgeons out there,, yep, has been since AlGore invented the WWW,

[togor]

People have noticed the asymmetry,

Three people shout angry slogans at cops, and they're one of George Soros's BLM terror cells, huge threat.

Two guys shoot up cops, wearing the garb of a movement, and well they're just goobers, or whatever, a clown show, criminals yes but really there's nothing to see here.

Cops as a professional necessity don't have the luxury of giving into their sympathies if they have them. It's important to them to know who's doing the shooting, and why.

Seems obvious enough.

[lyman]

People have noticed the asymmetry,

Three people shout angry slogans at cops, and they're one of George Soros's BLM terror cells, huge threat.

Two guys shoot up cops, wearing the garb of a movement, and well they're just goobers, or whatever, a clown show, criminals yes but really there's nothing to see here.

Cops as a professional necessity don't have the luxury of giving into their sympathies if they have them. It's important to them to know who's doing the shooting, and why.

Seems obvious enough.

cops, or at least the one's I know , look for the person committing the crime,

some work to put groups out of business, (ORC, Gangs, etc)

the garb of a movement, that clearly is not really a movement, I would hope the cops don't take that bait and look at the individuals,


the media has already blown things up, and will continue to make a gun ower (legal and behaving legally) the bad guy,


and you seem to be taking a great interest in this movement, and using 2 goobers dressed in the so called garb, etc etc, and want to compare them to an organized group that is already known to be vigilant on their cause, and violent as well as damaging property (and if not involved in the damage, doing nothing to stop it or condemn it),,



there is instead more of a apples to cheese balls type comparison, that only makes sense if you are not informed and think CNN is a truthful news source

seems obvious enough...................................that you cannot make that distinction

[togor]

Boy you spent some time on that post, put in the extra effort to argue that it's much ado about nothing.

Time will tell if it's nothing or not.

Funny thing, I had noticed the connection between traditional anarchist thinking (book learning payoff I guess) and right wing militants, specifically what was called Propaganda of the Deed in the old days, before I ever heard the B-word.

Which is funny to me in some ways. Because people here rail against anarchists but only see them on the left. History says that is a mistake. Anarchists expressing their "2A rights" violently can bring only trouble to law abiding gun owners. I said it here first.

[lyman]

Boy you spent some time on that post, put in the extra effort to argue that it's much ado about nothing.

Time will tell if it's nothing or not.

Funny thing, I had noticed the connection between traditional anarchist thinking (book learning payoff I guess) and right wing militants, specifically what was called Propaganda of the Deed in the old days, before I ever heard the B-word.

Which is funny to me in some ways. Because people here rail against anarchists but only see them on the left. History says that is a mistake. Anarchists expressing their "2A rights" violently can bring only trouble to law abiding gun owners. I said it here first.

you say , or think you do, everything first!!


anarchy is a political side of its own, not a R or D thing

[togor]

anarchy is a political side of its own, not a R or D thing

Yes! Extremism!

Which is why I'm puzzled by the sensitivity knob being turned up to 11 sometimes and left at 2 at others.

[lyman]

only you have a sensitivity knob, and it stays on whatever you feel makes you either relevant or a victim

[togor]

only you have a sensitivity knob, and it stays on whatever you feel makes you either relevant or a victim

I'm never a victim. Not in my wiring. Confusing my posts with someone else's, or skipping over reading them, again. There are a few guys here who feel deeply victimized by the tumult in the country. Not me. Mr. Even Keel, non-extremist.