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  • togor
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    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #16
    Why is arguing against the black perspective on nooses so important to you? It seems obvious enough from the postcards why it is a sore spot. Can't even give them that?

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #17
      Originally posted by togor
      Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge the black perspective towards the noose, and lynchings, given your lack of understanding of it.
      Who say's he or anyone else living in this country doesn't "understand," when the media has been exploiting the subject for years. Lynching of whites was common on the frontier when courts were few & far between, & there were no cameras around.

      But I say again, how, by what logic, can the relative handful of black lynchings (compared to MILLIONS of white hangings worldwide) entitle them to OWNERSHIP of this symbol? Black ENTITLEMENT--that's what it's all about.

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      Originally posted by togor
      Why is arguing against the black perspective on nooses so important to you?
      Because it's contrary to reason as well as history--the history of MILLIONS of whites who likewise died at the end of a rope? Why is denying this REALITY so important to you?

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      • Gun Smoke
        Banned
        • Sep 2019
        • 1658

        #18
        Originally posted by clintonhater
        Who say's he or anyone else living in this country doesn't "understand," when the media has been exploiting the subject for years. Lynching of whites was common on the frontier when courts were few & far between, & there were no cameras around.

        But I say again, how, by what logic, can the relative handful of black lynchings (compared to MILLIONS of white hangings worldwide) entitle them to OWNERSHIP of this symbol? Black ENTITLEMENT--that's what it's all about.

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        Because it's contrary to reason as well as history--the history of MILLIONS of whites who likewise died at the end of a rope? Why is denying this REALITY so important to you?
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        • rayg
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 7444

          #19
          +2

          Togor says..Why is arguing against the black perspective on nooses so important to you? It seems obvious enough from the postcards why it is a sore spot. Can't even give them that?
          Togor you forgot Hands up!!

          Now..Lets move forward and talk about to days time..as GS posted...A bit of modern day reality..
          Whites killed by blacks 2015, 81%......
          Blacks killed by whites. 2% ....
          Last edited by rayg; 06-21-2020, 09:39.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #20
            Your crime stats image got a "pants on fire!" truthfulness rating.

            It's that time of year to once again cast our gaze on some of the most outrageous comments made by politicians. WUSF talks with PolitiFact Florida's Amy...

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            • Gun Smoke
              Banned
              • Sep 2019
              • 1658

              #21
              Originally posted by togor
              Your crime stats image got a "pants on fire!" truthfulness rating.

              https://www.wlrn.org/post/politifact...s-who#stream/0
              Sure, you can always find a site that will disagree with facts. Pick up a newspaper, turn on the news, read the internet daily happenings. It's almost all blacks committing crimes of various styles most often promoted by the democrats.

              As far as arguing against the black perspective on nooses goes why show us a picture of a noose supposedly from a GM plant? It's no more racist than a mousetrap in Kalamazoo MI or an apple in a fruit bowl at Macon GA.

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              • rayg
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 7444

                #22
                Originally posted by togor
                Your crime stats image got a "pants on fire!" truthfulness rating.

                https://www.wlrn.org/post/politifact...s-who#stream/0
                You are the the pants on fire as those those figures shown are old and from 2015 and apparently were not complete at the time and not official yet. Doesn't make them wrong..And the reference figures you have provided are from 2014, And but of course, they left out the entire black on white death figures for that year.. Probably hoping no one would notice,, You should read your references before posting and use more current stats.....
                Politfacts is way left leaning..
                Last edited by rayg; 06-21-2020, 11:28.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11297

                  #23
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Your crime stats image got a "pants on fire!" truthfulness rating.

                  https://www.wlrn.org/post/politifact...s-who#stream/0
                  do you have your own source?

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                  • sid
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3198

                    #24
                    Alec Baldwin has been threatening to do this for years. Who the hell would miss him?

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                    • dryheat
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10587

                      #25
                      Doesn't take an Einstein to see that little list is BS. Didn't even have to look it up.
                      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Gun Smoke
                        Sure, you can always find a site that will disagree with facts. Pick up a newspaper, turn on the news, read the internet daily happenings. It's almost all blacks committing crimes of various styles most often promoted by the democrats.

                        As far as arguing against the black perspective on nooses goes why show us a picture of a noose supposedly from a GM plant? It's no more racist than a mousetrap in Kalamazoo MI or an apple in a fruit bowl at Macon GA.
                        They're called facts for a reason. The numbers in your slide come mostly out of thin air.

                        If you don't understand why nooses and graffiti saying "whites only" inside the plant is a problem, then there really is no point in discussion.

                        An attorney for workers suing General Motors says employees are still facing racial harassment after nooses and racist graffiti were found two years ago at a plant in Ohio.

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #27
                          Originally posted by clintonhater
                          Who say's he or anyone else living in this country doesn't "understand," when the media has been exploiting the subject for years. Lynching of whites was common on the frontier when courts were few & far between, & there were no cameras around.

                          But I say again, how, by what logic, can the relative handful of black lynchings (compared to MILLIONS of white hangings worldwide) entitle them to OWNERSHIP of this symbol? Black ENTITLEMENT--that's what it's all about.

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                          Because it's contrary to reason as well as history--the history of MILLIONS of whites who likewise died at the end of a rope? Why is denying this REALITY so important to you?
                          Are there post cards of white lynchings? The post cards speak to a different purpose than frontier justice. Lots of reasons to put someone on the free end of a rope, some better than others.

                          It's not entitlement for blacks to have a legitimate point of view. It is entitlement to suggest that they don't get one, because other people don't like it.

                          IMO it's good for the country to come to terms with some of this. The younger folks are taking the lead, which is also a good sign. They'll be living when we're all dead so they're ENTITLED to chart a course that works for them.

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                          • Gun Smoke
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 1658

                            #28
                            Sounds like togor wants reparation now for blacks because a few (very few compared to whites) got lynched many years ago and that a noose ALWAYS means someone wants to kill a black person. What BS.

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                            • lyman
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11297

                              #29
                              or he is pushing buttons to get a reaction,

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                              • togor
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 17610

                                #30
                                Originally posted by lyman
                                or he is pushing buttons to get a reaction,
                                I didn't bring up the nooses.

                                Or reparations.

                                If this is considered "pushing buttons", then how sad:

                                Do people want a country where blacks, formerly enslaved and with the difficult history that comes with that, are free? Answering with a qualified "yes", as in "free, but on these terms...", is not free at all.

                                Should be obvious, not a big deal, certainly not pushing buttons.

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