We can't talk about the Plantation of Ireland, either.

[Vern Humphrey]

Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo signed an executive order Monday that could change the state's official name to exclude a portion that has ties to slavery.

The state's official name is "the State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations," and the "Providence Plantations" portion has come under scrutiny in the aftermath of protests following the death of George Floyd.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rhode-islands-formal-name-is-the-state-of-rhode-island-and-providence-plantations-theres-a-move-now-to-change-that/ar-BB15QDgt?li=BBnb7Kz

[shadycon]

Next they will try/succeed to burn down Monticello and "ALL" other preserved Historic sites of that era.

[Vern Humphrey]

Booker T. Washington memorials will have to go, too -- wasn't Washington a slave owner?

And Martin Luther King must be erased from history -- Martin Luther was a Christian! And it was the King who permitted slavery!

[Tuna]

There never were any Plantations in the state of Rhode Island. It was named as such by Rodger Williams when he moved to the area of Providence for religious freedom because the whole state would be about the size of some Plantations in the other parts of the country. There was no slavery allowed at that time. But that changed as more people came in from Massachusetts bringing their slaves with them. One of the early if not the first murders in Rhode Island was done by a slave in the 1680's time frame. He used his masters pistol to do it. His owner had it in his will that the slave would be come a free man when the owner died. He also knew where the owner had hidden 300 pounds in cash. He got it all and was a free man after the ambush of his owner. He confessed on his death bed from natural causes. It took the burden of guilt off another man. Was really quite a story that took years from start to finish.

[togor]

Do you WANT to talk about the plantation of Ireland?

[RED]

It is so sad... does anybody other than Vern, know what a plantation is?

There have been plantations all over the world for hundreds of years and the vast majority of them did not have black slaves.

A plantation is a large-scale estate meant for farming that specializes in cash crops. The crops that are grown include cotton, coffee, tea, cocoa, sugar cane, opium, sisal, oil seeds, oil palms, fruits, rubber trees and forest trees.

The Governor of Rhode Island is a idiot and those that try to rewrite the dictionary are fools.

Plantations in Ireland were common place and nary a black slave was ever lynched on one. Yeah, yeah, there were a lot of Sheillelagh Laws and fights among the clans but plantations were an important part of the history and many were abandoned at about the same time as the Civil War in America. They called it the Great Irish Potato Famine.

[lyman]

lots of plantations around here,

and they rake in some tourist dollars as well,

a few are still working plantations, as in Farming, (no, togor, no slaves) and make enough to sustain the properties,

[S.A. Boggs]

Wasn't Australia established as an English "plantation" staffed by Irish slaves under the guise of prisoners around the late 1600's? It has been over 50 years that I was taught world history.
Sam

[lyman]

Wasn't Australia established as an English "plantation" staffed by Irish slaves under the guise of prisoners around the late 1600's? It has been over 50 years that I was taught world history.
Sam

re read your history,

plantation and penal colony are not the same

[S.A. Boggs]

re read your history,

plantation and penal colony are not the same

If you look @ what the English did to my ancestors in the old country laws were made just for the Irish which amounted to legal slavery under the guise of law. Involuntary servitude is it not slavery regardless of how it is administered. Capturing people and putting into chains, pray tell what is the difference?
Sam

[lyman]

If you look @ what the English did to my ancestors in the old country laws were made just for the Irish which amounted to legal slavery under the guise of law. Involuntary servitude is it not slavery regardless of how it is administered. Capturing people and putting into chains, pray tell what is the difference?
Sam

you answered your own question

[togor]

The mid-19th century Chinese diaspora is an interesting read. Not only California, up and down the entire west coast of the Pacific. Mining guano, which provided the world with nitrates until the Haber-Bosch process came along, was the worst possible outcome. I don't think anyone signs a contract to enter slavery, but compulsory labor was a mainstay of the world until the machine age, and even then it has been a transition. We see echos of compulsory labor in the Covid era. Elon Musk may yet get a union in his Tesla plant.

[Vern Humphrey]

Wasn't Australia established as an English "plantation" staffed by Irish slaves under the guise of prisoners around the late 1600's? It has been over 50 years that I was taught world history.
Sam

Read Coleen McCullough's book, Morgan's Run. To this day, the Australians call themselves "Anglo-Irish" and harbor bitter feelings about their ancestors' slavery.