Mask wearing manditory in all US Post Offices?

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  • togor
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    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #16
    CH do you wear seat belts when you drive? The masks are like seat belts, but by you wearing one it helps protect others, and when they do it they help protect you.

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    • clintonhater
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 5220

      #17
      Originally posted by togor
      CH do you wear seat belts when you drive? The masks are like seat belts, but by you wearing one it helps protect others, and when they do it they help protect you.
      Protect OTHERS? The classic excuse & justification of the born do-gooder: "It's for your own good, so shut up & do as you're told." Even clearer proof that "it's all about social control."

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      • togor
        Banned
        • Nov 2009
        • 17610

        #18
        Originally posted by clintonhater
        Protect OTHERS? The classic excuse & justification of the born do-gooder: "It's for your own good, so shut up & do as you're told." Even clearer proof that "it's all about social control."
        There is science behind the policy but I doubt it would move you a millimeter.

        This link sent to me by a friend. May make you feel less alone on this subject.

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        • clintonhater
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 5220

          #19
          Originally posted by togor
          May make you feel less alone on this subject.
          Less alone! Everybody I spend any time around KNOWS it's BS, even though many of them are forced to do it to hold their jobs. You know nothing about what real working people think about this or any other subject.

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #20
            Originally posted by clintonhater
            Less alone! Everybody I spend any time around KNOWS it's BS, even though many of them are forced to do it to hold their jobs. You know nothing about what real working people think about this or any other subject.
            Indoors the masks are a very good idea. Outdoors the virus dissipates quickly such that the mask accomplishes less. "Real working people", unless they're epidemiologists, have no claim on expertise.

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            • Gun Smoke
              Banned
              • Sep 2019
              • 1658

              #21
              If you can breath through them easily and speak half way clearly while wearing one are they doing any good?

              I've read where the best mask (the 3M N95) smallest openings are 3 mils. The average virus bacteria are 1 mil and that the only way a mask can stop the bacteria is if several try to enter at once and clog the openings.

              I think they make a "better than nothing" splatter screen if you sneeze but I doubt if you breath in bacteria laden air you are accomplishing anything by wearing one.

              If you are high risk or have a respiratory illness a respirator is the way to go. I wore them at work occasionally--you can't even smell oil base paint fumes so you know they are filtering well.

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              • dryheat
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 10587

                #22
                Ever read the whole manual that comes with a "real" respirator? Probably not, it's a whole 12x12 folded up sheet in very small letters. Even the scientists say,the masks are not perfect, but it helps. Yeah, it's some kind of Socialism if you want to paint it that way, but it's cooperation that makes us successful. Even monkeys and other mammals ect. cooperate. I have worn a mask. And I have always said, I'd never visit China just for that reason. It's weird. I'll never get over the feeling that this is all a dream. A bad dream. Just when I started to relax a little(like all those kids at the bars) I get another hit of depressing news. It is a new world I think from here on out. Get used to it. Or not if your stubborn and luddite and proud of it.
                If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                • togor
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                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17610

                  #23


                  Some explanations there. But I hear that if enough locals get together at a watering hole without masks, then it's okay. Really strong opinions counteract the virus somehow.

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                  • clintonhater
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 5220

                    #24
                    Originally posted by dryheat
                    Yeah, it's some kind of Socialism if you want to paint it that way, but it's cooperation that makes us successful.
                    That's a valid point of view, & many are happy to live under those terms; however, they don't deserve to be living in a FREE (allegedly) country, & should move to one of the socialist utopia's of Europe, where their lives are planned from cradle to grave.

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #25
                      Originally posted by clintonhater
                      That's a valid point of view, & many are happy to live under those terms; however, they don't deserve to be living in a FREE (allegedly) country, & should move to one of the socialist utopia's of Europe, where their lives are planned from cradle to grave.
                      How deadly would the virus half to be for you to support the collective goal of containing it? If evidence showed that older males had a higher mortality would that matter?

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                      • clintonhater
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 5220

                        #26
                        Originally posted by togor
                        If evidence showed that older males had a higher mortality would that matter?
                        It DOES!

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                        • togor
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 17610

                          #27
                          Originally posted by clintonhater
                          It DOES!
                          But not enough for you to participate in the group activity. Again, wondering what mortality statsyou would need to endorse a strong civic response that prioritizes controlling the virus over normal activities. Talk about freedom is misleading in my opinion. In the end, like so many things do, controlling Covid or not comes down to prioritizes.

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                          • Johnny P
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6259

                            #28
                            If you are over 48 I bet you had a smallpox virus vaccination, and you nor your parents were free to decide whether you got it or not.

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                            • clintonhater
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 5220

                              #29
                              Originally posted by togor
                              In the end, like so many things do, controlling Covid or not comes down to prioritizes.
                              We notice that you NEVER use the real & original name, Wuhan.

                              Anyway, what it comes down to is exercise of common sense, not a mindless "one size MUST fit all," all places, all situations, idiocy that you & the other collectivists seek to impose by force. Like I said, collectivism your ideal society? Go to Denmark.

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                              • Vern Humphrey
                                Administrator - OFC
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 15875

                                #30
                                Originally posted by clintonhater
                                We notice that you NEVER use the real & original name, Wuhan.

                                Anyway, what it comes down to is exercise of common sense, not a mindless "one size MUST fit all," all places, all situations, idiocy that you & the other collectivists seek to impose by force. Like I said, collectivism your ideal society? Go to Denmark.
                                I would have recommended Venezuela.

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