Ozark, Arkansas 1951

[RED]

I went to second grade in Ozark Arkansas in 1951. There was no indoor plumbing, and the outhouses were a mess. But, we did have swings, monkey bars, and a slide on the play grounds. Across the street there was a "colored," grade school. Unlike our playground there was no swings or any play ground equipment and where our playground was covered by grass theirs were dirt and mud.

My teacher was outside at a recess and I asked her, "Why don't they have swings and stuff over there."

She replied, "Because they would just tear them down."

I asked, "How could they tear down the monkey bars?''

She slapped my butt and made me sit inside an empty room for the rest of the day.

That was fundamental racism.

Today that attitude is gone from 95% of the white U.S. populace and it is the blacks demeaning whites. Today it is blacks that were never slaves, nor were their grandfathers, their great grand fathers. Only about 10% of today's black population have ancestors that were slaves in the Confederate States before The Civil War. But they want any and all hardworking, honest and God fearing Americans that do or don't have ancestors that owned slaves to become slaves for them. And, pay them moneys they get from honest hard work so they don't have to work. That is fundamental racism.

[togor]

Link to a Quora discussion about how many modern African Americans were descended from slaves (and where).

Red's 10% number looks way low to these people. Not sure where he got it.

https://www.quora.com/What-percentag...ants-of-slaves

[RED]

Link to a Quora discussion about how many modern African Americans were descended from slaves (and where).

Red's 10% number looks way low to these people. Not sure where he got it.

https://www.quora.com/What-percentag...ants-of-slaves

According to your link:

The African population in United States descend not only from enslaved Africans, but also free Africans (some former indentures

They are guessing... and there are a lot of blacks in the U.S. today, that came from or have ancestors from the Caribbean, Central and South America, Europe, and Africa that have no relations to the slaves in America prior to 1861. Even if they are descendants of slaves that gives them no birth rights to special treatment in todays society.

[togor]

According to your link:



More total BS from a compulsive liar. In your mind any black Americans that had "free African," ancestors is a descendant of slaves that were in the Confederate States of America in 1861. That is ridiculous. LIE, LIE, LIE, So you don't where I got my figures... Perhaps I got them from that radical KKK arm of the American Government also called the Census Bureau.

Haven't lost your charm. Someone asks you where you got a number, posts a link that suggests a lowballing, and you get nasty with the personal attacks.

No wonder your star is fading. Right along side your idol's.

[clintonhater]

\you get nasty with the personal attacks.

Sez you, a master of personal attacks. Hypocrite!

[blackhawknj]

I object to people claiming their problems are due to the "after effects of slavery"-which was outlawed 155 years ago-and it is not a hereditary condition, no one has identified a "slavery gene", or especially when their family has lived for generations in a historically free state.

[togor]

I object to people claiming their problems are due to the "after effects of slavery"-which was outlawed 155 years ago-and it is not a hereditary condition, no one has identified a "slavery gene", or especially when their family has lived for generations in a historically free state.

So when people won't approve loans or extend job offers to people solely for the reason that they are likely the descendants of slaves, what is that? It is hypocritical for people to tell blacks to "get over it" when they themselves are still invested in residual aspects of the old system. If you were a union man in NJ then you are familiar with the old days (or stories thereof) where some unions didn't want the good jobs going to blacks.

[RED]

So when people won't approve loans or extend job offers to people solely for the reason that they are likely the descendants of slaves, what is that? It is hypocritical for people to tell blacks to "get over it" when they themselves are still invested in residual aspects of the old system. If you were a union man in NJ then you are familiar with the old days (or stories thereof) where some unions didn't want the good jobs going to blacks.

So when people won't approve loans or extend job offers to people solely for the reason that they are likely the descendants of slaves,

Document a single time that has happened in the past 100 years. It is just another made up lie by a made up clown. Anybody that believes that happens is a total fool. First of all if the job applicant is black and the employer a racist white person, it's not going to make a damn bit of difference even if the black guy is a descendent or is a 200 year old ex slave... he ain't gonna get the job.

[togor]

Document a single time that has happened in the past 100 years. It is just another made up lie by a made up clown. Anybody that believes that happens is a total fool. First of all if the job applicant is black and the employer a racist white person, it's not going to make a damn bit of difference even if the black guy is a descendent or is a 200 year old ex slave... he ain't gonna get the job.

Leave it to Red to split the hair and miss the point. Blacks didn't get loans, the good jobs. Presumed slaves.

Or maybe you agree with me, I can't tell.

[clintonhater]

If you were a union man in NJ then you are familiar with the old days (or stories thereof) where some unions didn't want the good jobs going to blacks.

"The old days," right--50 yrs ago. NOW, the union or employer MUST accept Negroes, qualified or not, or face a EOC discrimination lawsuit. This is common knowledge to anyone who head isn't far up into his rectum.

[lyman]

Document a single time that has happened in the past 100 years. It is just another made up lie by a made up clown. Anybody that believes that happens is a total fool. First of all if the job applicant is black and the employer a racist white person, it's not going to make a damn bit of difference even if the black guy is a descendent or is a 200 year old ex slave... he ain't gonna get the job.

Leave it to Red to split the hair and miss the point. Blacks didn't get loans, the good jobs. Presumed slaves.

Or maybe you agree with me, I can't tell.

I recall a few stories, both local and nationally, about real estate agents (and loan officers/title folks) that would steer some folks to different neighborhoods when looking for a home,


I want to say in was in the 80's but cannot remember,

basic gist was a new development opened up, and the realtor would show only to a certian gender, or race, or perceived income level,


lots of dookey hit the fan, at least locally, and things supposedly changed,

[blackhawknj]

A lot of the financial meltdown and the home lending/mortgage crisis came about because a lot of the old rules were jettisoned, the old rule that a mortgage would only be given to someone with a 20-25% down payment, the mortgage payments to be no more than 25% of family income, etc.

[m1ashooter]

red I agree with the jest of your post. This weekend I, as a manager was asked to deal with a customers issue with her order. As I went into the office to read the notes in her order the customer says to the desk lady who is Black "he's not going to help me. I can tell he is going to do the KKK on me". I didn't know this until after I helped her. The customer happens to be Black. No why would she make this kind of comment was completely uncalled for.

[lyman]

red I agree with the jest of your post. This weekend I, as a manager was asked to deal with a customers issue with her order. As I went into the office to read the notes in her order the customer says to the desk lady who is Black "he's not going to help me. I can tell he is going to do the KKK on me". I didn't know this until after I helped her. The customer happens to be Black. No why would she make this kind of comment was completely uncalled for.

I ran a grocery store in the hood, and heard it all the time,

but generally only when things didn't go the way the customer wanted it to go,

had a few 'Karens' too, learned how to deal with them as well,

[Gun Smoke]

A lot of the financial meltdown and the home lending/mortgage crisis came about because a lot of the old rules were jettisoned, the old rule that a mortgage would only be given to someone with a 20-25% down payment, the mortgage payments to be no more than 25% of family income, etc.

Seems like every time there is a recession the banks whine the most because they over extended/over loaned and are usually the prime reason a recession happens. When the last recession occurred it turned out that the banks were giving mortgage loans left and right w/o even checking the ability for repayment.

They are always bailed out but need to be cut loose next time. No lessons are learned when they are rewarded every time.