How do we define "segregation" ?

[blackhawknj]

Here in NJ we have Lakewood Township in Monmouth County which has seen an enormous growth in its Orthodox Jewish population. Part of their Sabbath observances is that they cannot drive, it's an impermissible form of work. As a consequence they like to live within walking distance of their synagogues, hence you have whole neighborhoods, apartment complexes of people who have self segregated because it needs their needs and upholds their beliefs.

[Vern Humphrey]

I have no problem with that -- people can live where they choose, if they can afford it. It's when they CANNOT live where they choose or send their kids to local schools, or drink from a public water fountain, or have to sit on the back of the bus that I get my hackles up.

[clintonhater]

have to sit on the back of the bus that I get my hackles up.

When the neighbor kid & I used to ride the city bus in to "town" about 10 m. away to watch the Saturday matinee at the town's only theater, we always tried to sit in the back of the bus (the single wide seat) until one day a colored lady said "what you white boys doin' back hyeh," then opened her huge purse to show us a 8" butcher knife. After that, we stayed on our side of the line.

[Vern Humphrey]

When the neighbor kid & I used to ride the city bus in to "town" about 10 m. away to watch the Saturday matinee at the town's only theater, we always tried to sit in the back of the bus (the single wide seat) until one day a colored lady said "what you white boys doin' back hyeh," then opened her huge purse to show us a 8" butcher knife. After that, we stayed on our side of the line.

Oh, yes. If you "crossed the color line" you'd get pushback from both sides.

[dogtag]

Talking of stupid ordinances; as a kid in England a Sunday ordinance
said you could buy butter but not Margarine. Another said you could
not park next to a Horse trough. The law that said Men must practice
their archery skills on Sundays was still in effect.
But there were no segregation laws.

Forgot to add, there were no Horse troughs.

[togor]

Oh, yes. If you "crossed the color line" you'd get pushback from both sides.

Umm... that's the only place she had to sit. It's not like she could go up front. White people draw the line but feel like they can cross it? Did you once understand this stuff but just lose that capacity over time?

[rayg]

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So according to your post, I guess it was okay for her to pull a knife on them too because they were in the wrong seats huh...

[shadycon]

DT: You would be surprised as to how many outdated laws are still in effect in this country.

[Major Tom]

There was a German law that said sneezing while driving was prohibited!

[clintonhater]

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So according to your post, I guess it was okay for her to pull a knife on them too because they were in the wrong seats huh...

Didn't "pull a knife," just opened her purse so we could see what was inside; didn't make us mad or upset, as we knew we were breaking "the rules."

[rayg]

Still a threat...like If I said back up and opened my jacket to show a gun on my belt as I said back up. That is a threatening move,

[Vern Humphrey]

Still a threat...like If I said back up and opened my jacket to show a gun on my belt as I said back up. That is a threatening move,

I would consider that a warning, not a threat.

[Vern Humphrey]

I would consider that a warning, not a threat.

I would not get upset about it. A lot of people around here carry openly, and I don't feel threatened.

[rayg]

When the neighbor kid & I used to ride the city bus in to "town" about 10 m. away to watch the Saturday matinee at the town's only theater, we always tried to sit in the back of the bus (the single wide seat) until one day a colored lady said "what you white boys doin' back hyeh," then opened her huge purse to show us a 8" butcher knife. After that, we stayed on our side of the line.

I must be missing something..she wasn't just carrying as you say, but the she intentional opened her purse to show you the knife. But you say you weren't threatened when she did that and just left! Why would she do that if not to threatened you?

[Vern Humphrey]

When the neighbor kid & I used to ride the city bus in to "town" about 10 m. away to watch the Saturday matinee at the town's only theater, we always tried to sit in the back of the bus (the single wide seat) until one day a colored lady said "what you white boys doin' back hyeh," then opened her huge purse to show us a 8" butcher knife. After that, we stayed on our side of the line.

I must be missing something..she wasn't just carrying as you say, but the she intentional opened her purse to show you the knife. But you say you weren't threatened when she did that and just left! Why would she do that if not to threatened you?

Don't over analyze it -- the lady was just shooing off a couple of annoying kids.