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  • rayg
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 7444

    #1

    See what our colleges are teaching the students, anyone see a problem

    Does anyone see any problems with what our universities are teaching the students

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  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    Freebeacon heats up the spoon this morning?
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • rayg
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 7444

      #3
      Yes stuff being spoon fed to the students....

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      • dryheat
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 10587

        #4
        Dang, I came here for bacon.
        If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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        • lyman
          Administrator - OFC
          • Aug 2009
          • 11266

          #5
          had a high school friend tell me about box math yesterday,

          his daughter teachs at a local historical place, does a lot of online stuff,



          I had never heard of box math, and we googled it,


          if this is truly what is being taught, we are doomed,

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            This?

            http://www.elementarymathconsultant....0each%20factor.

            If the method produces the mathematically correct answer, and it makes sense to kids who don't like the standard method, then what's the problem? Math, even vector calculus, linear algebra, always came easy to me. But that's not true for everyone.

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            • lyman
              Administrator - OFC
              • Aug 2009
              • 11266

              #7
              yep, that is basically it,


              time,

              in the time it takes to do one problem, one, using the 'old method' would finish a page,

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Some may be faster with the new method, especially after practice, or it may be the only way they get to the right answer at all. Giving kids more than one way to solve problems strikes me as a good idea.

                My oldest, the MD, is strangely good at complex math problems, but takes elliptical approaches that would not occur to me. But in the end, gets the same answer as me, in about the same amount of time.

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                • Major Tom
                  Very Senior Member - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6181

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  This?

                  http://www.elementarymathconsultant....0each%20factor.

                  If the method produces the mathematically correct answer, and it makes sense to kids who don't like the standard method, then what's the problem? Math, even vector calculus, linear algebra, always came easy to me. But that's not true for everyone.
                  Math always came easy for me, but todays math is not understandable or easy.

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                  • 98src
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 199

                    #10
                    Requires multiplication AND addition....takes entirely too long. Looks like it's fixing something that isn't broke.

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                    • togor
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      Did anyone try it? Read the link? It's straightforward and like the link says, intended as a visual aid for students to understand what happens in multiplication in a way that is unclear with the regular method. I really don't see the problem with this being another arrow in the math teacher's quiver.

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                      • Vern Humphrey
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 15875

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 98src
                        Requires multiplication AND addition....takes entirely too long. Looks like it's fixing something that isn't broke.
                        The "New Math" was based on the assumption everyone was going to get a PHD in math, and after 12 years of public school and 8 years of college, everyone would say, "AH! NOW I get it!"

                        But if you didn't go that far, you're remain totally confused.

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                        • blackhawknj
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3754

                          #13
                          Some people have no talent for math or foreign languages or music, more effort should be devoted to recognizing that. And "no answer can be cheap or easy in the growth field of paraeducation, whose game of planned obsolescence leaves General Motors in the dust." to quote an Albert Shanker column. There was "look-say" reading which led to years of illiterates then "phonics first " became the cure all. And the "New Math" was created by people who really couldn't do math.
                          The higher educational system became the employer of last resort for many 60s and 70s radicals-who else would hire them ?
                          Last edited by blackhawknj; 07-19-2020, 05:24.

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                          • rayg
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 7444

                            #14
                            [QUOTE=blackhawknj;590044]
                            There was "look-say" reading which led to years of illiterates then "phonics first " became the cure all. And the "New Math" was created by people who really couldn't do math.

                            Don't foergret thier was memmory spaeling also..That's how I leerned to spell!

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                            • lyman
                              Administrator - OFC
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 11266

                              #15
                              Originally posted by togor
                              Did anyone try it? Read the link? It's straightforward and like the link says, intended as a visual aid for students to understand what happens in multiplication in a way that is unclear with the regular method. I really don't see the problem with this being another arrow in the math teacher's quiver.
                              if it helps a kid, great, but the 'old way' is still faster,

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