DeBlasio's reverse quarantine.

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  • clintonhater
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 5220

    #1

    DeBlasio's reverse quarantine.

    Rotten POS wouldn't stop residents leaving the city to spread the virus all over the country, but he's now stopping visitors coming IN: https://www.theblaze.com/news/de-bla...id-checkpoints
  • dryheat
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 10587

    #2
    Your one to talk. Banning people from coming in or going out isn't the point. The point is, you want people who will adhere to the instructions put forth by medical experts, who may be a little more adverse. NY bans AZ, well, duh. There's nothing that can't be worked. The more I hear about Covid the more I think I'm going to go out camping.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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    • Vern Humphrey
      Administrator - OFC
      • Aug 2009
      • 15875

      #3
      Originally posted by dryheat
      Your one to talk. Banning people from coming in or going out isn't the point. The point is, you want people who will adhere to the instructions put forth by medical experts, who may be a little more adverse. NY bans AZ, well, duh. There's nothing that can't be worked. The more I hear about Covid the more I think I'm going to go out camping.
      The campgrounds are closed -- Covid 19, you know.

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      • clintonhater
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 5220

        #4
        Originally posted by dryheat
        Banning people from coming in or going out isn't the point.
        It's the same "point" that stopped the virus from spreading all over China, & allowed that country to escape relatively unscathed! It's the same "point" that was always done in this country during Yellow Fever & Cholera outbreaks in the past. It's what Trump proposed when it was just getting started, but he was "put in his place" by the NY State Dictator, who gave a million state gov't workers paid vacations so they could spread it all over the country as quickly as they could fly to Fl or drive upstate. How hard is it to quarantine an island?

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        • Roadkingtrax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 7835

          #5
          Originally posted by Vern Humphrey
          The campgrounds are closed -- Covid 19, you know.
          No, they arent. Closed as in full.
          "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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          • togor
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 17610

            #6
            CH, NY State us doing a lot better than most other states right now on Covid. The NE in general, which is the Liberal stronghold on the East Coast, is the best performing region. You're mad about this? Wish infection rates were 100X higher?

            BTW, we could start blaming CBP for allowing the infected to come in on their watch. The whole DHS construct didn't work out.

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            • rayg
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 7444

              #7
              States do better..then worse...changes week to week...

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Originally posted by rayg
                States do better..then worse...changes week to week...
                Like the wind? LOL, there is causality to it, not random chance. The states seeing decline are seeing it because they clamped down.

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                • clintonhater
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 5220

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  CH, NY State us doing a lot better than most other states right now on Covid.
                  What does its "doing a lot better" now have to do with its role in SPREADING it to other parts of the country? CDC has said NYC was the hotbed of the epidemic in this country! Are you such a mindless defender of all left-wing causes that you would deny the spread could have been drastically slowed by a quarantine? Are you such a liar as to deny the effectiveness of China's quarantine?

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                  • togor
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 17610

                    #10
                    Originally posted by clintonhater
                    What does its "doing a lot better" now have to do with its role in SPREADING it to other parts of the country? CDC has said NYC was the hotbed of the epidemic in this country! Are you such a mindless defender of all left-wing causes that you would deny the spread could have been drastically slowed by a quarantine? Are you such a liar as to deny the effectiveness of China's quarantine?
                    Why NYC? It's just one link in the infection chain. But the one you want to beat on. You could blame CBP for letting it in from Europe. You could blame the Italians for seeding it in the west. Your arguments are always transparently constructed to attack people you don't like, with whatever is on hand. It's obvious and boring and shows no brains at all.

                    Right now the infection is moving north, into Tennessee, out of Georgia, Alabama. But you don't want to talk about that because it's all Red State action there.
                    Last edited by togor; 08-06-2020, 11:23.

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                    • clintonhater
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 5220

                      #11
                      Originally posted by togor
                      Why NYC? It's just one link in the infection chain.
                      Because CDC IDENTIFIED it as the place it all started in this country, & where for several weeks at least it was concentrated, & could, with a quarantine, have been contained long enough to prepare the rest of the country to deal with it! YOU are the idiot to deny this unarguable fact that no one else questions!

                      ANYBODY else agree with Togor that doing nothing when it got out of control in NYC, allowing all those laid-off workers to spread it like wildfire all over the country, was the smart thing to do?

                      In case it wasn’t obvious from the headlines and body count, New York is currently suffering more severely from the coronavirus epidemic than almost anywhere else. The city and its surroundin…
                      Last edited by clintonhater; 08-06-2020, 01:20.

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                      • togor
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Originally posted by clintonhater
                        Because CDC IDENTIFIED it as the place it all started in this country, & where for several weeks at least it was concentrated, & could, with a quarantine, have been contained long enough to prepare the rest of the country to deal with it! YOU are the idiot to deny this unarguable fact that no one else questions!

                        ANYBODY else agree with Togor that doing nothing when it got out of control in NYC, allowing all those laid-off workers to spread it like wildfire all over the country, was the smart thing to do?

                        https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...g2e-story.html
                        Another straw man.

                        We've discussed that Cuomo and De Blasio were slow to react. They like Trump were hoping that economic damage could be averted. Remember what Trump was saying around that same time, downplaying the virus. Last time I checked, NY was part of the USA, part of his jurisdiction as POTUS. Since then they have performed better. Trump? Not so.

                        Love to hear your plan on how they could have locked down NYC. Bridge by bridge, tunnel by tunnel, turnpike by turnpike. Sounds like a job for the US Army. Was Trump in a position to offer regular troops? Also: the disease was already out there, in Chicago, Boston, etc.

                        And this timeline by Trump, courtesy of The Lincoln Project. Note that NY cases peaked around 9-April. You're blaming the state of NY for not going against Trump quickly enough.

                        Last edited by togor; 08-06-2020, 06:29.

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                        • clintonhater
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 5220

                          #13
                          Originally posted by togor

                          Love to hear your plan on how they could have locked down NYC. Bridge by bridge, tunnel by tunnel, turnpike by turnpike. Sounds like a job for the US Army.
                          No, an EASY job for NYPD with 36,000 officers; few places in the world would have been as easy to quarantine. China did it in Wuhan, a totally landlocked city!

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                          • rayg
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 7444

                            #14
                            Originally posted by togor
                            Another straw man.

                            We've discussed that Cuomo and De Blasio were slow to react. They like Trump were hoping that economic damage could be averted. Remember what Trump was saying around that same time, downplaying the virus. Last time I checked, NY was part of the USA, part of his jurisdiction as POTUS. Since then they have performed better. Trump? Not so.

                            Love to hear your plan on how they could have locked down NYC. Bridge by bridge, tunnel by tunnel, turnpike by turnpike. Sounds like a job for the US Army. Was Trump in a position to offer regular troops? Also: the disease was already out there, in Chicago, Boston, etc.

                            And this timeline by Trump, courtesy of The Lincoln Project. Note that NY cases peaked around 9-April. You're blaming the state of NY for not going against Trump quickly enough.

                            Mean while Biden...SILENCE...hiding in basement!

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                            • togor
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 17610

                              #15
                              Originally posted by clintonhater
                              No, an EASY job for NYPD with 36,000 officers; few places in the world would have been as easy to quarantine. China did it in Wuhan, a totally landlocked city!
                              The gadfly's eternal reply. I wouldn't have to actually pull this off myself, but it would be easy for those other dummies to do it.

                              Look at a map sometime of lower NY. You've got NJ, and then, Pennsylvania, and in the other direction, up the coast, Connecticut, then NE. You can't seriously be proposing that the region can be bottled up without Federal support. Which, clearly, would *not* have been forthcoming from Trump. China used the NATIONAL government, whereas you propose the NYPD has this no problem. More than likely the NYPD rank & file would be trying to figure out how to get their own families outside of the confinement area!

                              (Added: don't forget aircraft either! the entire US airspace is under Federal control. They might be able to jam things up on the ground at LaGuardia and JFK, but if someone has the means to get airborne, it's out of NY's hands at that point.)

                              So your whole premise is nonsense. Sorry, but this one is a fail.

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                              Originally posted by rayg
                              Mean while Biden...SILENCE...hiding in basement!
                              Ray with your media choices as narrow as they are, you can't expect to know what Biden is up to. But a guess is he's working on his veep decision. This is something that often takes candidates off the circuit for awhile.

                              As for not traveling, it doesn't seem to be hurting him any. Plus he doesn't want to get sick. Can't blame him for that. Can you?
                              Last edited by togor; 08-07-2020, 04:46.

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