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Just a few weeks ago, all the MSN and the Italian Government was slamming Trump and bragging about their COVID response as being superior to ours. Now those stories have disappeared. The truth is, that is just another piece of propaganda being published by the National Socialist Democrat (NAZI) news media. Italy has a population of 60.4 million and have suffered 35,234 deaths The US has a population of 330 million and a death total of 168,000. The US has over 5X as many people and has 168,000 deaths... (5X the 35,234 the Italian deaths is 176,420). Statistically, not much difference if you think almost 9,000 deaths are unimportant.
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Italy had 533 new cases on 13-August. The US had 54000. That's a ratio of 100X.
And if you look at their case curve, it's an enormous spike at the outset, then it comes way way down.
What they're proud of is the fact that at their worst they had a much more extreme situation than the USA and they got a handle on it. Whereas in many parts of the US, people barely even try, or actively resist pandemic control.
You're so bad at this stuff, RED. It's so easy to poke holes in your numbers. -
So you think who died when and not how many is important. You think that it is a terrible thing that Americans have a different mind set than a nation that hasn't been successful for the past 1500 years and has lost a higher number of people per capita. Twist and turn, hate and burn and yes figures can lie and thats all you have ever done. Tell us again how Trump was a loser in 2016 and how he is going to lose again in 2020. Tell us some more lies....Last edited by RED; 08-15-2020, 05:09.Comment
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Absolutely it is important because it gives the immediate state of the epidemic. The Italians can rightly point to the severity of their early outbreak and the difficult--heroic--sacrifices they made to bring the outbreak under control as a genuine accomplishment. It's something that outside of the Northeast, has not been attempted in the US. To put it in terms that hopefully will irritate you, the Italians, with all of their problems, and their lax attitude towards rules, pulled off something that Trump wouldn't even dare to try.
As for "1500" years of Italian futility--Isn't the Renaissance in there somewhere? If not mistaken CH would give them credit for doing a few good things in that span of time, and I would actually agree with him (although Mussolini would be a point of disagreement).
I see two historic forces competing in the US. On the one hand there is the very real notion--not rejected by conservatives--that among the essential functions of the government is to protect the lives of the people. A government that acquiesces to large scale death in the population is one that loses legitimacy. On the other hand, there is this idea that predates the era of public health (mid 19th century), most common in the south, where malaria and yellow fever took an incredible toll on white people especially, that seasoning the population to epidemics is just something that needs to be done. That attitude about disease is an unfortunate example of how the past can bury the future in some parts of the country.
The story of Yellow Fever in New Orleans is a fascinating one.
Last edited by togor; 08-15-2020, 05:30.Comment
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I think it's pretty sad that the democrats have destroyed
the nation's newspapers.
I used to enjoy reading my local paper, but that was a long time ago.
Now the so-called newspapers are just like The daily Worker, the English
Communist party rag.Comment
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