It begins the end of our country..protests, riots, burning, killing, looting

[m1ashooter]

With the exception of Seattle and Portland and the virus, my America is pretty normal. I do find the unrest in Portland a bit troubling but since I don't live there I'm not really concerned.. The majority of us get up and go to work each day and do the best to take care of our families.

[Vern Humphrey]

With the exception of Seattle and Portland and the virus, my America is pretty normal. I do find the unrest in Portland a bit troubling but since I don't live there I'm not really concerned.. The majority of us get up and go to work each day and do the best to take care of our families.

Portland and Seattle are self-solving problems -- those cities will sink into oblivion and not trouble us any more.

[blackhawknj]

Again, it seems to me the people behind this-if there is a cabal-are watching the ratings very closely
and realize it is not going over well and are keeping it from spreading. Portland has joined Chicago on the list of places that people in the heartland do not care about.

[rayg]

With the exception of Seattle and Portland and the virus, my America is pretty normal. I do find the unrest in Portland a bit troubling but since I don't live there I'm not really concerned.. The majority of us get up and go to work each day and do the best to take care of our families.

I don't believe you're saying that..you are forgetting Chicago, NY and all the rest of the cities were the statues were torn down and marching and etc......

[Roadkingtrax]

I don't believe you're saying that..you are forgetting Chicago, NY and all the rest of the cities were the statues were torn down and marching and etc......

They knocked off kings on the Notre Dame facade during the French Revolution. I guess statues are used to the negative attention.

[rayg]

Senseless babble..

[Roadkingtrax]

Senseless babble..

Historical context is ugly I know, but do try to realize glorification of the past is a burden we have to work with when the imagery doesn't match how we "feel".

[RED]

Historical context is ugly I know, but do try to realize glorification of the past is a burden we have to work with when the imagery doesn't match how we "feel".

Complete jackasses like the stooges are wanting to erase history. You apparently believe even the word history, (i.e. his story) is a misogynist, sexist, and racist word.

That's how Civil Wars begin. Clowns that hate history is what Santayana was talking about. Burning books was a big thing in 12th century France and now look who is ruling the New Inquisition... Stooges.

[togor]

So....Red.....The abolitionists hated slavery with a passion, were willing to let their God lead them to war over it. Good? Bad?

[Roadkingtrax]

Complete jackasses like the stooges are wanting to erase history. You apparently believe even the word history, (i.e. his story) is a misogynist, sexist, and racist word.

That's how Civil Wars begin. Clowns that hate history is what Santayana was talking about. Burning books was a big thing in 12th century France and now look who is ruling the New Inquisition... Stooges.

More RED lies, invented arguments to rage at. No one has said what you are espousing you old fool.

You're not getting Christmas card from me this year, no matter how much you sweet talk.

[Vern Humphrey]

Senseless babble..

What have I been telling you?

The stooge in chief learned something when he was being toilet-trained -- to get all of Mother's attention, all he had to do was crap in his pants. He's been doing it ever since. And when you respond to him, you encourage him to keep doing it.

[clintonhater]

So....Red.....The abolitionists hated slavery with a passion, were willing to let their God lead them to war over it. Good? Bad?

Bad. There was another way, or several. Slave-labor was only marginally profitable, & raising the cost of slave-ownership would have strangled the system. This could have been done by sending abolitionists to slave auctions & simply outbidding plantation owners, & ample money to do this could have been raised from a combination of public subscriptions & contributions from rich Northern industrialists. This was actually proposed, but rejected by abolitionist leaders who insisted on punishing slave-owners for their moral turpitude by taking their lawful property by force of law.

[Vern Humphrey]

Bad. There was another way, or several. Slave-labor was only marginally profitable, & raising the cost of slave-ownership would have strangled the system. This could have been done by sending abolitionists to slave auctions & simply outbidding plantation owners, & ample money to do this could have been raised from a combination of public subscriptions & contributions from rich Northern industrialists. This was actually proposed, but rejected by abolitionist leaders who insisted on punishing slave-owners for their moral turpitude by taking their lawful property by force of law.

Late in the war, Lincoln shocked his cabinet by suggesting the government simply buy the slaves and set them free. He pointed out that the cost to buy them all would be equal to about what four months of war would cost.

And in figuring the cost, he only included Treasury outlays, now what states laid out, and didn't consider costs in property, lives and so on.

(Source: Bruce Catton, "A Stillness at Appomattox.")

[clintonhater]

Fanatical abolitionists like John Brown wanted more than merely freedom for the slaves--they wanted punishment of slave owners, so reimbursement for the loss of legally-acquired property was anathema to them. Brown, in particular, thirsted to see blood flow, & did his part in making it happen.

[Vern Humphrey]

Fanatical abolitionists like John Brown wanted more than merely freedom for the slaves--they wanted punishment of slave owners, so reimbursement for the loss of legally-acquired property was anathema to them. Brown, in particular, thirsted to see blood flow, & did his part in making it happen.

Brown was a serial killer. Eric Hoffer was right -- the cause does not make the fanatic, the fanatic seeks out the cause, any cause, to justify his actions.