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I remember when Red posted the above. I said then that while the Democrat party is anti gun individual democrats were pro gun. They just couldn't buck the party when it came down to the "nut cuttin'. " Well that's changed, gone are the days when John Kerry or Jimmy Carter tried to show their 2nd Amendment bona fides. Today the Democrats have whole heatedly embraced the anti gun agenda. The below article is a straightforward and unapologetic explanation of where the Dems are on gun issues today and why.
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Decades ago people would say "I'd never vote a straight ticket. I vote for the person, not their political party".
Decades ago even I knew at an early age that no matter how sincere someone seems, no matter how nice, no matter what their beliefs are, once elected into the democrat party they are caugh up with the party and like it or not go along with everything the party represents which today, favors other countries more so than America. -
Should any gang banger be able walk into his local hardware store and pick up a handgun no different than a pistol-type nozzle for a garden hose?
Or click "buy now" on GunBroker and not have there be a background check?
Should a 23 year old schizophrenic hearing voices be able to act when the voice saying "get a gun and kill everyone in Whole Foods to excise the demons" has the last word in his skull?
If someone answers "no" to any of these then they favor some kind of gun control.
Art is trying to frame this as a black and white issue to rally the tribe in an election season. Trump may be an immoral crook like they say, but guns! Art knows too clearly that the issue of guns is anything but simple.Comment
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That 23 year old schizophrenic can walk into a liquor store, in some states a dope shop, buy all he wants, there is quite a bit of evidence showing drink and drug use is none too healthy for schizophrenics. And the deinstutionalizing of mental patients has resulted in large numbers of people walking the streets who will not obey society's rule and, as my mother once said "can't spend more than ten seconds a day thinking about anybody but themselves."
That gang banger is probably the offspring of a teenage mother who had her first child at 15 so she could start enjoying a life of leisure on the public dole.
Click the "Buy Now" on Gunbroker. The GCA of 1968 outlawed mail order sales of firearms, that gun will be sent to an FFL in his state, not delivered to his P.O. Box or home address.
Why not tie liquor sales to the DL database? Require a DL for liquor sales, if a DWI conviction comes up-no sale.Comment
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Without democrats guns would NOT ever even be mentioned if used in a crime.
The constitution provides the "rights/freedom".
Our laws enforce the unlawful use of a gun but because of demcrats and their term of PC many criminals go free.
A crime is a crime wheather guns are used or not. Floyd George, George Floyd (WTF) was killed with a knee for resisting arrest.
The democrats want our guns so police power can be enforced by them. ONLY democrats want more gun control and total confiscation. After all, it's what goes on in communist countries.Comment
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What about these? Any criminal can get one.
The web site says "join the 80 percent army"Comment
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What about them?What about these? Any criminal can get one.
The web site says "join the 80 percent army"
It's just a block of metal. Do YOU have the skills to finish them? Do YOU have the facilities to harden aluminum?
Any criminal can obtain a gun. Most prefer to just steal them. Remember they don't exactly go by the law.
If our judicial system was strict enough our criminal rate would be lower. Prison should be a place a person doesn't want to go to. Ours have reduced sentences, A/C, TV, and librarys where the criminals can read up on laws and how to avoid them (next time).
Most of all these BLM riots would NOT be tolerated.Last edited by Gun Smoke; 08-21-2020, 01:38.Comment
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Hang on then....so some gun laws are okay?
Having accepted that principle, can you state with complete confidence that the laws we have today is the optimal set?
That's a tough question, a deep one. But look at this auction:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/875930010
Look at his description. He's talking about jigs to make full auto bolts. Either that's a loophole or people are going to end up in jail.
But full auto aside, the 80% + jig is a growing slice of the market that sidesteps all gun laws. Are you saying that legislation to bring these items in line with factory made guns is a bad idea?
I personally have no problem with a law that requires 80% frames and receivers to be serialized and sold through FFLs, putting them on equal footing with reputable manufacturers. Flame away, why that is not in the interest of RESPONSIBLE gun owners.Comment
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Don't comment if you don't know. They give you a jig to finish off the metalwork. The AR receiver does not need to be heat treated after final work in the jig. When you're done, you proceed as with any other build. And the locking lugs are on the barrel extension, not the receiver.
Do you really mean to say that because guns are so common, gun laws are obsolete? Because that's what you're saying. Criminals don't follow the laws, so responsible people are being needlessly burdened. Is that really your position?Comment
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Stupid people shouldn't own guns.
Democrats are stupid people.
Ergo: democrats should not own guns.Comment
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Where in the United States can someone walk into a hardware store and buy a gun as easy as a garden sprinkler?
The Democrats are totally anti-gun, have been for some time now, and are proudly promote it.
From 2020 Democrat Party Platform:
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12 Democrats will enact universal background checks, end online sales of guns and ammunition,
13 close dangerous loopholes that currently allow stalkers and some individuals convicted of assault
14 or battery to buy and possess firearms, and adequately fund the federal background check
15 system. We will close the “Charleston loophole” and prevent individuals who have been
16 convicted of hate crimes from possessing firearms. Democrats will ban the manufacture and sale
17 of assault weapons and high capacity magazines. We will incentivize states to enact licensing
18 requirements for owning firearms and “red flag” laws that allow courts to temporarily remove
19 guns from the possession of those who are a danger to themselves or others. We will pass
20 legislation requiring that guns be safely stored in homes. And Democrats believe that gun
21 companies should be held responsible for their products, just like any other business, and will
22 prioritize repealing the law that shields gun manufacturers from civil liability.
They want all gun owners to be licensed, but nothing said about criminals stealing guns.Last edited by Johnny P; 08-21-2020, 07:15.Comment
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