Democrats give God his walking papers ...

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  • dogtag
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 14985

    #1

    Democrats give God his walking papers ...

    It seems he's no longer welcome in their pledge of allegiance.
    How long I wonder before the Pledge itself gets it's walking papers ?
    One also wonders exactly who does have their allegiance.
    Maybe it's the guy who is talked about in whispers, known by
    several names and was kicked out of Milton's paradise.

    As the Democratic National Convention played out across locked-down America over the past week, conservative observers were keen to note that Democrats had omitted “under God” from when reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.
  • Roadkingtrax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 7835

    #2
    "Under God" was not original to the pledge of your adopted country in 1892, it was added in 1954.

    Do you want to bring back the Bellamy Salute too? <Insert hat joke here>
    Last edited by Roadkingtrax; 08-23-2020, 05:44.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      Will they reenact the heroic clearing of Lafayette Square each night of the RNC convention? Smoke machines simulating riot gas? Trump holding a Bible upside down in front of a church facade?

      It says something about the current state of American Christianity when the secular left shows a better grasp of the Sermon on the Mount and New Testament than so many of those claiming that they are persecuted for their faith.
      Last edited by togor; 08-23-2020, 05:59.

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      • blackhawknj
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 3754

        #4
        At the same time it's those on the Secular Left who think that The Man either never existed or wasn't who He said He was who think they have the authority to criticize those who try to follow His teachings.

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by blackhawknj
          At the same time it's those on the Secular Left who think that The Man either never existed or wasn't who He said He was who think they have the authority to criticize those who try to follow His teachings.
          To the believer, are they on the left not also his children? And is God really going to be displeased by legislation whereby the hungry are fed, the homeless given shelter, the sick cared for? Do you recall the saying about the camel and eye of the needle? The point here is that God keeps his own counsel, and if he would be mysterious enough to work through a clearly Godless Donald Trump, as some have led themselves to believe, then he could easily choose to work through a secular left who acts in man's name when doing God's will on Earth (the Good Samaritan). None of us knows and it would be foolish to think otherwise. But for me, Trump being clearly Godless while claiming to be sent by God. That does not add up for me, and I cannot see how it does for any other Christian.

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          • Roadkingtrax
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 7835

            #6
            Isaiah 1:15: No matter how much you pray, I won't listen.
            "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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            • blackhawknj
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 3754

              #7
              When The Man walked this earth, no AFDC, Food Stamps, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, I doubt they had too many teenage girls getting pregnant at 15 -as the video "Swipe Yo' EBT !" puts it " And you gotta do is ----! And 9 months later yo' collection' big bucks!"

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Originally posted by blackhawknj
                When The Man walked this earth, no AFDC, Food Stamps, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, I doubt they had too many teenage girls getting pregnant at 15 -as the video "Swipe Yo' EBT !" puts it " And you gotta do is ----! And 9 months later yo' collection' big bucks!"
                You think if Jesus came back to earth, to America, Food Stamps would be at the top of his list? Or would he head to Wall Street? Love a reference from scripture to support your argument either way.

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                • blackhawknj
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 3754

                  #9
                  If He were to visit Wall Street I doubt He'd approve of the greed, the dishonesty, the self centeredness. And if He visited a soup kitchen, a public housing project, an inner city neighborhood, I doubt He'd approve of the promiscuity, the drug use, the irresponsibility, all the hungry children whose food money goes for drink....

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                  • Vern Humphrey
                    Administrator - OFC
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 15875

                    #10
                    Originally posted by blackhawknj
                    When The Man walked this earth, no AFDC, Food Stamps, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, I doubt they had too many teenage girls getting pregnant at 15 -as the video "Swipe Yo' EBT !" puts it " And you gotta do is ----! And 9 months later yo' collection' big bucks!"
                    Philemon 1
                    8 Therefore, although in Christ I could be bold and order you to do what you ought to do, 9 yet I prefer to appeal to you on the basis of love. It is as none other than Paul—an old man and now also a prisoner of Christ Jesus— 10 that I appeal to you for my son Onesimus, who became my son while I was in chains. 11 Formerly he was useless to you, but now he has become useful both to you and to me. 12 I am sending him—who is my very heart—back to you. 13 I would have liked to keep him with me so that he could take your place in helping me while I am in chains for the gospel. 14 But I did not want to do anything without your consent, so that any favor you do would not seem forced but would be voluntary.

                    Saint Paul seems to be saying that involuntary charity -- i.e., done by force of law, not by the heart -- is not a good thing. What would he say about our system of tax-financed welfare?

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