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  • SUPERX-M1
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 224

    #1

    What will Ivanka do......

    Article by Vanessa Grigoriads at thecut.com dated 8 05 19.A year old but very relevant and most interesting. Mainly Ivanka, also The Donald and Jared. Piercing insights into all. Her relationship with father.



    Surprise, she is a narcissist , but a relatively nice one. As with The Donald, she is about status, money, power.

    Have read that narcissists are made, not born. Donald Trumps father did form him, but Donald, is , my opinion, a malignant narcissist psychopath. You are born a psychopath and with it comes narcissism.

    Worth reading: pay to play, deals,....
  • togor
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 17610

    #2
    Originally posted by SUPERX-M1
    Article by Vanessa Grigoriads at thecut.com dated 8 05 19.A year old but very relevant and most interesting. Mainly Ivanka, also The Donald and Jared. Piercing insights into all. Her relationship with father.



    Surprise, she is a narcissist , but a relatively nice one. As with The Donald, she is about status, money, power.

    Have read that narcissists are made, not born. Donald Trumps father did form him, but Donald, is , my opinion, a malignant narcissist psychopath. You are born a psychopath and with it comes narcissism.

    Worth reading: pay to play, deals,....
    I'll have a look. You're in the X-ring on Trump, no doubt about it.

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    • togor
      Banned
      • Nov 2009
      • 17610

      #3
      After the White House, she probably can’t go back to the city that made her. So she has cannily devised another exit strategy.


      Worthwhile read.

      My money is on her heading abroad, to steer clear of indictments. She's using her contacts now with foreign governments to line up nice opportunities for later in life.

      The sooner the Trumps, and Kushners, are off the political stage, the better for the country. Whether they just go into exile or orange jumpsuits, either way is fine by me.

      Also, she apparently married daddy a little bit in that greaseball Kushner, who himself comes from a family of frauds.

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      • 98src
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 199

        #4
        Originally posted by togor
        https://www.thecut.com/2019/08/what-...ite-house.html

        Worthwhile read.

        My money is on her heading abroad, to steer clear of indictments. She's using her contacts now with foreign governments to line up nice opportunities for later in life.

        The sooner the Trumps, and Kushners, are off the political stage, the better for the country. Whether they just go into exile or orange jumpsuits, either way is fine by me.

        Also, she apparently married daddy a little bit in that greaseball Kushner, who himself comes from a family of frauds.
        You still haven't read "Fall Out" by John Soloman have you? Do you think the Biden/Clinton/Obama cabal leading this country is better?????

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        • togor
          Banned
          • Nov 2009
          • 17610

          #5
          Originally posted by 98src
          You still haven't read "Fall Out" by John Soloman have you? Do you think the Biden/Clinton/Obama cabal leading this country is better?????
          Short answer: in terms of corruption and basic competency, 1,000 times better. The Clintons were skeevy in an Arkansas-trailer-park way, but small timers compared to Trump. Obama, he ran a pretty clean operation. Now you can say he had to because otherwise the GOP would have ripped him a new one, but the fact remains he did.

          In terms of basic competence, there's no question all of those guys are way better. For one thing, unlike Trump, they actually read. This may come as a horrible shock to people but not everything that crosses a President's desk is a trivial and easily solved before we get to the next commercial break on TV. Former Trump administration officials are practically tripping over each other to shout "in God's Name vote for Biden people!" Can you remember when that *ever* happened before? And it's because they've seen him up close, know that cognitively, he's an ongoing disaster for the nation.

          There's a video circulating on YouTube that contrasts and compares how Fox conservatives demanded an uber-competent response to Ebola by Obama, and argued the performance bar down to nothing for Trump and Covid-19. So even those people know there is a night-and-day difference in basic competence on those parts of the job that don't entail politics.

          Now on political stuff, sure the base likes the way Trump plays to them endlessly. But not everything is politics. We are living in such a world right now.

          Trump says "elect me and I'll do something about Covid, and the street riots." The base says, "damn right!" I say "wait a minute, isn't he the fukking President right now?"

          Added:

          John Soloman writes pro-Trump political fiction now. Even Fox News research bureau concluded as much, so that their on-air people did not get pulled into bad stories.

          In documents obtained by The Daily Beast, Fox’s research team advises colleagues to be wary of “disinformation” from several Trump-boosting on-air regulars, including Giuliani.
          Last edited by togor; 08-27-2020, 12:20.

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          • rayg
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 7444

            #6
            The pot calling the kettle black..The Daily Beast is the king of liberal disinformation....
            Daily Beast media bias rating is Left.
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            • sid
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3198

              #7
              I am a clinical psychologist and it always amazes me how these left wingers throw around terms like "narcissist" that they know nothing about. It is just another instance of name calling and trying to appear intelligent.

              It reminds me of what Socrates said a very long time ago and it is apropos to what we are now discussing. "When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser."

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              • togor
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 17610

                #8
                Was a clinical psychologist, now diagnosing people from the wrong side of an ignore list. Nobody is impressed.
                Last edited by togor; 08-27-2020, 03:49.

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                • lyman
                  Administrator - OFC
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11268

                  #9
                  Originally posted by togor
                  Was a clinical psychologist, now diagnosing people from the wrong side of an ignore list. Nobody is impressed.
                  his quote still applies,,,

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                  • Roadkingtrax
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 7835

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sid
                    I am a clinical psychologist and it always amazes me how these left wingers throw around terms like "narcissist" that they know nothing about. It is just another instance of name calling and trying to appear intelligent.

                    It reminds me of what Socrates said a very long time ago and it is apropos to what we are now discussing. "When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser."
                    Vern's favorite word?
                    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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                    • dryheat
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 10587

                      #11
                      Former administration officials are tripping over the rights to write a "scathing" book in the future. Trump is news. I pity the poor twelve year olds of today, they are going to have to hear about Trump for half of their lives. Actually, it's only going to be seven or eight years but they will be real sick of it by then. I got so tired of seeing Jackie on the cover at the checkout counter.
                      If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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                      • lyman
                        Administrator - OFC
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 11268

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dryheat
                        Former administration officials are tripping over the rights to write a "scathing" book in the future. Trump is news. I pity the poor twelve year olds of today, they are going to have to hear about Trump for half of their lives. Actually, it's only going to be seven or eight years but they will be real sick of it by then. I got so tired of seeing Jackie on the cover at the checkout counter.
                        I hear you,

                        my mother was infatuated with the entire Camelot thing,


                        I was 2 months old when JFK was shot, and recall her following Jackie for too damn long in the news,

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                        • Vern Humphrey
                          Administrator - OFC
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 15875

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lyman
                          I hear you,

                          my mother was infatuated with the entire Camelot thing,


                          I was 2 months old when JFK was shot, and recall her following Jackie for too damn long in the news,
                          I gotta admit, I got sick of AJN (All Jackie News.)

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